Scuderia Ferrari 2023

https://racingnews365.com/ferrari-banned-from-meeting-for-2026-engine-regulations?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=sharing

 

So this means what?

Is Ferrari calling it quits for 2026? Or it just means they really don't care about the rules for 2026 BUT are still going to participate in F1.

Everyone else submitted by the deadline, except Ferrari. How awkward.

 

Huh?

 

I guess it's Ferrari's way of "vetoing" RedBulls "new" entry in 2026 whereby RedBull gains like Audi and Porsche.

 

Interesting game being played.

 

WTF?

 

Binotto every race weekend next year...
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Yep, RedBull and Honda have strategically played this game very nicely for 2026.

Finding the loopholes in the rules.....not bad if I may say.

 

I really don't believe a certain game was played.

The engine freeze was coming for 2023 anyways, that all teams agreed to. With Honda ('s then CEO) deciding it was leaving F1 by end of 2021, Red Bull lobbied to have the engine freeze brought forward a year early, and received no real objections from anyone.

I think for those that believe that Red Bull forced an engine freeze to lock in an engine advantage, they need to re-check their tin foil hat and add some facts into the mix:

1) At the time when the freeze was announced, Mercedes still had the dominant engine
2) It would require testicles the size of basketballs to predict your team would have a significant enough advantage by the start of 2022 in order to make a bet more than £100 million (what RBPT spend) to basically move an engine freeze up one year.
3) Again, no team/manufacturer was really against it.


It would require you to believe a deal was made with Honda board for their CEO to announce to leave F1, then said CEO would hand in his resignation a while later, only for the new CEO 6 months later to announce that they actually want to remain in F1. Honda would lose ALL it's branding on a car that just won the championship, losing out on all that marketing it spend well over a billion for. All that, only to bring an engine freeze forward by a year, with the supposed claim that RBR/Honda would have the superior engine in 2022, when again, at the time of the freeze announcement, they really weren't?

Call me a skeptic but I have my doubt on anyone sitting on the board of a 40 billion dollar company to think that this is a good idea.

 

Red Bull said that they´d be building Honda engines for 2022, so, as they were new, they needed the freeze. Later that Honda will be building them till 2025, so, as they aren´t building their own engines, they should be considered a new entry. They got the Honda design till 2025 but for 2026 they don´t know anything about engines so they´re a new entry.

So. They were a new entry to get the engine freeze and now to avoid the budget cap.

I think they´re changing their discourse to get whatever is being negotiated at each moment. If FIA said that they´d giving special treatment to teams led by women, Helmut Marko would be transgender.

Just FYI, I´ve made a simulation of that with IA.

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https://racingnews365.com/ferrari-faces-55-million-hole-after-loss-of-sponsors?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=sharing

 

The real question is why was crypto (en the large) sponsoring anything ??

 

Isn't that Susie Wolff?

 

Righto. Helmita Marko is now officially the scariest image I've seen since this year so far.

 

This is why Ferrari was absent from 2026 regulations discussions
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The reason Ferrari were not allowed to attend last year's 15 December F1 meeting on the 2026 engine regulations is now known. Ferrari had refused to sign the November agreement, which excluded the team for the meeting a month later.



Ferrari, according to Motorsport.com do not agree with the entry of Red Bull Powertrains by 2026. The Medium understands from the FIA that there is a very big gap between the teams that have already signed the 2026 deal (Red Bull Powertrains, Mercedes, Honda, Audi and Alpine/Renault) and Ferrari. The reason Ferrari did not sign in November is because the team does not agree with the preferred position Red Bull would take.


Ferrari disagrees with 'new team' Red Bull
Trying to keep its positive image clean and not use its, historically amassed, veto power, Ferrari is speaking out against Red Bull Powertrains. Indeed, according to Ferrari, the Red Bull project cannot be seen as a new engine developer. After all, they have full access to all Honda's know-how currently. Red Bull refutes this by arguing that the PU rights are back with Honda without ever having been used by Red Bull.

If Red Bull Powertrains does indeed qualify as a new team, it will provide an advantage as new teams will have more time and freedom to test and invest. It immediately becomes a complicated case for new Ferrari team boss Frédéric Vasseur, who starts at the team on the 9th of January. Ferrari will try to avoid an even bigger fight by not using its veto, but the exclusion of the meetings is not a tenable situation for the racing team. Finally, it is also not entirely out of the question that Honda will not continue to work with Red Bull after 2026 anyway.

 

I think Ferrari decided enough is enough and is decided to retake power inside F.1. They're sone being tricked by Red Bull and Toto, they will play hadball from now one. Ferrari is already involved in WEc, so if they threaten to leave they should be taken seriously.

 

Cesare was amazing at Lancia's helm..but a disater at Ferrari, he should put a sock on!

 

Oof! You should be banned for posting that image

 

Yup, did great things with Lancia but did not impress at Ferrari especially when he was trying to entice Senna to join while letting the team with Prost and Mansell implode.

The fact he was a big advocate for Giovinazzi in the press says a lot about his assessment of drivers, I think.

 

This does make sense to me.
Do you think it's not demotivating for a driver to be told he is only #2 early on ?

 

If RB motors is a new engine supplier, I think Ferrari should spin off Ferrari Motor Division as a new engine supplier to F1.

 

Strange.
On this forum, I have always read people blaming Mercedes for their treatment of Bottas "the butler" for example.
Now you would consider it OK for Ferrari to do the same with Sainz ?
I think that any team should wait for the half season first, before deciding which driver has precedence.
The point is that if a driver is held back early on, it's highly demoralising.
Leclerc should prove his superiority on the track, and he is far from immune to mistakes.