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Which Models Have Highest Maintenance Costs?

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  1. ross

    ross Three Time F1 World Champ
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    like i said, much respect :)
    nice job breaking that f12 in Malcolm !

    going to Amelia?
     
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  2. crinoid

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    Every ten miles.
     
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  3. EastMemphis

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    I've had my gated 360 Spider going on four years and about 3,000 miles. It has cost me about $500 all in for maintenance and repairs in that time. So for my 360, the cost per mile has been about $0.16. That, of course, doesn't include registration, insurance, the $70k garage I built for the car, and the $10k lift I installed.

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  4. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    If you think Ferraris have traditionally been expensive to maintain hold on to your hats. Legislation, demands of the market place and technology have created cars in the last few years so many more times complex its mind boggling. When you combine that with an automaker as dedicated to debugging and long term support of their product as Microsoft is to debugging your latest and greatest software 21st century Ferraris will be a wild ride when the extended coverage's cover less and less or not at all. Especially the hybrid and turbo models.
     
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  5. malcolmb

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    I doubt it, but maybe. If you go will you look at the gray 27 GTB that will be for the auction?
    Break in miles on the F12 for certain, it seems to get better...
    How about monterey?
    M
     
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  6. 020147

    020147 F1 Rookie
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    That’s awesome you have a Lancair! A family friend built his pretty early on in the companies existence. Every time I saw that plane I couldn’t help but think, “this is one hell of an endeavor to undertake.”

     
  7. ross

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    would love to go to monterey, but it always clashes with my obligations in asia at the same time.
    do you need somebody to inspect that 275gtb?

    i am sure the f12 is working optimally with all the miles, and regular maintenance you are applying. that is exactly the method i am promoting. :)
     
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  8. Shark01

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    I have a non-Ferrari V-12 that averages $6,500 in service a year (over close to 9 years) and have driven it 5,500 miles…..$9.45 per mile.

    But the car is so special, I haven’t minded putting money into it. If it was a regular car, or even a high production exotic, I would have driven it to the dealer and set it on fire…..LOL
     
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  9. sinistermist

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    The most expensive Ferrari's to maintain are going to be ones maintained by a Ferrari dealer.
    Then the ones done at independent's using only Ferrari braned parts.
    The cheapest will be the diyers that don't care if the parts come in a box labeled Ferrari.

    So I am bottom of the barrel here, but what I would really want to know is if there are any Ferrari's outside the truly high end (F40, 288 GTO) where the cost in parts alone make it more expensive to diy than have any other model maintained by a dealer outside the warranty period.
     
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  10. Rifledriver

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    You are ignoring some factors. The cost of maintaining a Ferrari alone is only one part of the expense. In any expensive car cost of ownership needs to be considered not unlike a house. Resale is one of those costs and can vary greatly based on several factors, one being maintenance history. On a 308 or Mondial that history may mean very little. On a car built in 2010 it will mean a considerable amount. The market will not treat you well if it is DIY maintained with loads of generic parts.

    Just the way it is.
     
  11. sinistermist

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    The question is maintenance costs. That is entirely separate from depreciation costs. So yes, I am ignoring that, because it wasn't part of the question. Also, some of us look at our cars a little differently. Depreciation only matters if you are selling it. For the ones who buy a car for a couple years, get bored and then swap, it matters. For the ones that tend to buy cars and then sit on them, it doesn't.

    For some of us the money saved on doing the work ourselves will still out save the money lost because you don't have Ferrari embossed on your receipts. The question you are trying to turn this to is a lot more nuanced than just diy bad, lose money on newer, albeit still old, car. It will really boil down to what condition was the car in when purchased, what the maintenance costs run, and how not having those dealership receipts may (or may not affect) the value down the line. What I find funny is you use a car built in 2010. At this point it is 13 years old. That is plenty of time for neglect to have set in making it easier to pick one up with a spotty history.

    If we are factoring depreciation in than I am sure people can post examples of buying brand new, and selling them after 5-10 years and taking a bath on them.
     
  12. Texas Forever

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    Add to that any customizations, particularly if you don't keep the original parts.
     
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  13. sinistermist

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    There are different modifications. Some will want an original fuse box on an old car for originality. Some will want an aftermarket replacement because the originals are a flawed part.

    Then you have things like the Kia Rondo fuel pump that can be used in a 550. For a car asking top of the market on say bat, this might affect value. On an average car which has been maintained by a known independent? How many people are going to comb through the paperwork and try and haggle because the fuel pump was replaced with a non-ferrari part?

    Most are going to see the fuel pump was replaced x miles ago and consider it a good thing. Just about the same when you buy based off the manufacturer part number and not the ferrari part number.

    Things like cis to efi? Different ball park.
     
  14. Texas Forever

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    The problem as a buyer is I don't know you or whoever worked on your car. I can't speak for Brian, but I doubt he would use a Kia part on a Ferrari unless everything was fully disclosed. But you're right about fixing known problems. The hoses on a Maranello are a POS. I'd think you were really weird if you used original hoses.

    When I say customizations, I mean exhaust systems, wheels, body parts, stereo systems, and so on. One, I'm not going to pay up for these customizations. Two, I hope you kept the originals.
     
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  15. Rifledriver

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    BS examples. How many 250 GTO's have Ferrari connecting rods? With reasonable certainty I'd say zero. Has not affected their value.
     
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  16. sinistermist

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    I would agree, but one exception would be trx rims. I hate the tires. They are expensive and crap. My car runs vintage etoiles which fit the look. Would not be opposed to a set of aftermarkets made to look like the originals but in non trx tire sizes.
     
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  17. ross

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    have that for my bbi.
    but also have a set of daytona wheels so i can run balloon tires like the bb
     
  18. EFerrari34

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    I love the last sentence! The F355 maintenance was also easier to swallow when they we’re bouncing around $300k.


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  19. JaguarXJ6

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    $0.37/mile over 3 years and 16,000 miles for my F430. F1 hose replacement (hoses are sold as a complete kit) and a fuel pump (known weakness) plus 2 major services add up a majority of the cost. I will at some point do something about the windshield vents that have separated from the dash, also a known weakness.
     
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  20. jjmalez

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    I've always been fond of the 348. Care to share a brief summary of your issues?

    Thanks.
     
  21. ross

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    if you search posts by me mentioning the cursed 348, you will find some further description of my misery while owning that car ;)
     
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  22. willcrook

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    sf90 and puro will be very expensive to run and repair imo
     
  23. vrsurgeon

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    I've had my 360 going on 13 years. Put on her 20,000 miles. I haven't spent $20,000 maintaining her, but above the $10k mark given a clutch and timing belts. I'd say $0.75 mile? Def between $0.50 and $0.75 per mile. Given appreciation on the 3-pedal cars, I've probably actually made money owning her.
     
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  24. vandevanterSH

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    Haven't kept running $$ tally but I estimate maintenance costs work out to be less than a $1.00 per mile. 575 has been very reliable and only has needed two flat bed rides; one for a shredded tire on Interstate and once for seized A/C compressor. Only parts failures that come to mind are A/C compressor, leaking fuel pumps and tensioner bearings. Rest of major costs are related to use, brakes, tires, clutch and associated parts, belts, plugs, hoses, etc.
     
  25. rampante550

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    I need your contractor's info to see if they'll come to NC to build that garage for $70k here too - looks great
     

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