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Which Models Have Highest Maintenance Costs?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by George Vosburgh, Jan 28, 2023.

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  1. Mirek

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    2003 456M GTA

    2003-2020
    18k miles when I got it in 2020.
    $28k in invoices during prior ownership car was beautiful but hiding some annoying issues. The shop that did the last major did terrible work looking back.

    2020-2023
    29k miles and counting…
    $48k in invoices to completely recommission it mechanically and aesthetically (I mean everything from the ashtrays to the rubber disintegrating in the gas tank) plus make smart improvements (upgraded SPAL fans running off fuse board, bluetooth, MSW ECU, Fabio exhaust, etc…). No expense spared. That’s not counting shop comebacks that they had to eat.

    Car is MINT and runs like a raped ape but yea, open up that wallet.
     
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  2. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Eight Time F1 World Champ
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    "rubber disintegrating in the gas tank"

    No ****ing excuse for this. Sorry, I will never buy another Ferrari.
     
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  3. Mirek

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    I am just glad that got sorted on attempt #1 (not 4 like the cooling issues). I used Fabio’s upgraded pump surrounds to take care of that BS.
     
  4. The Red Baron

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    It would seem to me that the newer the model the more expensive the maintenance costs will be.
    Sounds contrary to the newer the more reliable the car theory. However its probably the hidden costs ,
    "if you indulge", that will be the killer costs so to speak.
    I haven't actually bought a new Ferrari for some time, but would imagine it going like this;
    Cost of car
    Warranty cost
    Extra extended warranty fee
    Yearly maintenance fee, but if you want we can do that every 6 months
    Classiche Cert fee
    Renewal of Classiche fee every year (or is that included in yearly maintenance fee)
    Hope I am wrong and it does not end up like this.
     
  5. Shark01

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    Has nothing to do with Ferrari, it is just that the rubber-ized materials of the 1990s had a limited lifespan.

    We go through this all the time in the Lamborghini world, when I’m helping someone buy a car I recommend asking the seller if the engine bay has been resealed. If not they need to allow for an engine out service.

    Same with suspension bushings….hard as rocks after 20 years.

    The materials used now will have a longer life.
     
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  6. Texas Forever

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    How about using plenum hoses on a 550 that Pep Boys would not allow in their dumpster?
     
  7. Zamboniman308

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    Fuels have changed since then as well. However, the quality of replacement parts from Ferrari is an unknown. Have the materials been upgraded? Hard to say. I know they have no problems charging a ton for OEM replacement fuel lines on the 355. Are they adjusted for modern fuels or is it repeating the wrongs of the past? Some of the in tank replacement rubber items have been shown to be suspect though.
     
  8. Shark01

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    So whether Ferrari uses antiquated compounds today I don’t know, just outlining the shortcomings of materials from 25+ years ago.
     
  9. thx enzo

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    The cost of expected service and repairs is one thing. However, it is the “didn’t see that one coming” that is more difficult to live with.


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  10. Mirek

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    You mean like when one of my pop-up headlamps randomly stopped working last Wed ?
    Picked it up on Tuesday after having both motors rebuilt and some basic light maintenance.

    Throw another $2k on that fire and wait for what comes next.

    At least now my airbag lamp is on….
     
  11. thx enzo

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    There is one plus to living in Wisconsin, no unexpected repair bills while it is in storage. Now when I take it out…….


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  12. ross

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    yea, i think that is likely.

    on my NO-TECH cars, if i am missing a part, for the most part i can at least get it fabricated (some transmission parts excluded). it will cost money, but it is not impossible.
    on the newer cars the tech is bespoke and hard to locate once past 10 years old- ferrari just dont want to know.
    like the ecu's on a 456mgt....you have one option: bosch oem. they are sealed units. no repair possible. no substitute since this is a unique engine in the line up.
    GFL

    and it will only get worse as time moves on with these high tech cars. the computerization on the latest models is ideal only for parts exchangers - which is what the techs in dealerships have become.
    there is no 'repairing' going on. it is all replacing.
     
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  13. George Vosburgh

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    So for me it's $30K over the last five years for my 599. Some of that is making the car to my own taste but the rest is to insure that she wants for nothing. In March I will be replacing the front shocks, steel braided brake lines, and starting to address the worst of the sticky buttons. My car had 40K when I got it, now over 46K.
     
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  14. Texas Forever

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    Why did Ferrari have a problem with broken manifolds/exhaust for so long? During testing, they used Tubi. During production, they changed to cheap ****.

    Frankly, I don't blame Ferrari. I blame Ferrari buyers.
     
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  15. George Vosburgh

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    That's really interesting!
     
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  16. montegoblue

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    Just drive your cars people . Smiles per mile better than dollars per mile.
     
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  17. Mirek

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    Of course we do, I hope !

    It is just the topic of the thread is all.

    Unfortunately, More Miles = More Maintenance
     
  18. c8spidey

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    Well I just noticed that(for the privelege of living in metro New York) that we pay this extra fee of $1750 which is to activate the SCM-Magnetorheological suspension.This is only charged by Metro NY dealers in order to support the Taylor Made Boutique on 5th Ave in NYC.
    For all other F-car owners it's included.
    Puts me a leg up on total ownership costs.
    Thanks!
     
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  19. ross

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    not necessarily.
    cars that sit, disintegrate faster than cars being used, in my experience.
     
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  20. The Red Baron

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    Extending the theory of newer cars being more expensive, I believe that quite a few (predominately less costlier cars)
    EV's come to the point where the battery has to be replaced. Currently it is not worth dong as the overall cost of battery replacement exceeds the value of the car.
    No reason why an electric Ferrari would be any different.
     
  21. AhmetUz

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    Based on what I heard from Ferrari owners around me and my own experiences (599 GTB), I believe that v12 Ferraris are a little more costly than others. (according to malfunction and parts costs)
     
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  22. F1blood

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    After reading through this conversation , I wanted ask why Ferraris build quality has become so poor in the last three decades ?
     
  23. mcw

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    My 2016 Cali T with about 24,000 miles has had maintenance costs of getting sticky buttons repaired, and I paid for the year eight annual service (first 7 included in purchase price). Otherwise, only new battery, tires, and wiper rubber. Good build quality and low maintenance cost in my experience. Yet, high smiles per mile.
     
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  24. Dewinator

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    I think it's less the model and more a combination of going too long between running, pushing out services because of low miles, and not doing preventative replacement of aging parts.

    Plus how many people shop for the "better deals" and then have lots of problems. What did the seller know that you didn't?
     
  25. tbakowsky

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    Personally the 488 is gonna be a real bugger to keep alive.i have one here with a cam cover leak. It's an engine out job, gearbox off and most of the engine disassembled in order to lock the camshaft in place, before remove the covers. Ferrari quoted him 30k to do the job. I quoted him zero. I'm not gonna do it. Not worth the time or risk so thing goes wrong. I told him to take it to Ferrari, or bin the car.
     
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