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Discussion in 'Australia' started by Aircon, Mar 23, 2009.

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  1. kena

    kena Formula 3

    May 20, 2007
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    Salt Ash
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    Ken Abrahams
  2. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jun 2, 2004
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  3. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Nov 1, 2003
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    John
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  4. Horse

    Horse Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Very, very special. I had a ride in Jerry's SV.
     
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  5. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 7, 2006
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    In the early 80s a couple guys down here lap dashed 'em
     
  6. islerodreaming

    islerodreaming Formula 3

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    It says it has had the carburettor fix. Incidentally, the same triple choke carbs are on the 365BB and apparently Ferrari just stuck a copy of the Lambo fix in their workshop manual.
     
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  7. islerodreaming

    islerodreaming Formula 3

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    John - a proud Australian man
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  8. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 7, 2006
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    Plenty of induction noise yes please.
     
  9. MrGrigio

    MrGrigio Formula 3

    Dec 19, 2011
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    #34959 MrGrigio, Feb 24, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2023
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  10. carl888

    carl888 F1 Veteran
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    Oct 31, 2003
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    Carl
    Cars usually catch fire because owners don't look after them.
     
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  11. carl888

    carl888 F1 Veteran
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    Oct 31, 2003
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  12. carl888

    carl888 F1 Veteran
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    Carl
  13. simon klein

    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Indeed....yum.
     
  14. carl888

    carl888 F1 Veteran
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    #34964 carl888, Feb 24, 2023
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    Since you're old, and I am too, I propose that almost anything automotive wise from the 1960s and 1970s is beautiful. Even the service stations were. I walked past a Peugeot 504 today, in a period olive hue. The Pininfarina detailing was particularly evident, it just "popped" the more you looked at it. Even the dash looked beautifully designed, unlike a current S-Class, which rivals a Chanel shop in China for its vulgarity. Or a table at a Lebbo wedding.

    Old cars have a benign and subtle road presence. Aggressive frontal styling and high sills dominate all the current offerings. Not to mention the massive girth and height. Safety and aerodynamics homogenise styling, often I can't tell the difference between a current Camry and Ghibli in profile.

    A few of my picks from the 1960s:

    Ferrari 275 GTB/4 NART Spider
    Lamborghini Miura S
    Porsche 904
    Alfa 33 Stradale
    Jaguar E Type roadster
    Lancia Stratos Zero (OK, it's 1970)
    Mercedes-Benz 230 SL Pininfarina
    Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato
    Ford GT40
    Maserati Ghibli
     
  15. islerodreaming

    islerodreaming Formula 3

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    Excellent list - add Bertone Carabo
     
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  16. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Nov 1, 2003
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    Got a photo of his car next to my gt4
     
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  17. MrGrigio

    MrGrigio Formula 3

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    Oh my, I absolutely adore Boras & Khamsins. I think James May assessment of the Bora is 100% spot on.

    Is that yours? ;)
     
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  18. MrGrigio

    MrGrigio Formula 3

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    #34968 MrGrigio, Feb 24, 2023
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    That's an absolutely fantastic top 10 list. Admittedly, my tastes are a bit more 1970s. For example, I'd take a periscopo Countach over a Miura even though I acknowledge a Miura is far more beautiful.

    My Top 10 1960s list would be

    Lamborghini Miura (but SV spec)
    Alfa 33 Stradale
    Ferrari Dino 206/246
    Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Daytona Coupe
    Ferrari 250 California SWB
    Iso Grifo
    De Tomaso Mangusta
    Aston Martin DB5
    Corvette C3 Stingray Big Block
    Oldsmobile Toronado - the 1967-1968 with the dainty grill and bumpers.

    My list is Ferrari biased but they also did have most beautiful range of cars at the time. Has any manufacturer ever had a more comprehensive smash hits of beautiful cars?

    Cars I wanted to include but didn't are E type Series 1 FHC, Ferrari 250 Lusso, Ford Mustang Fastback 1964-67 and Merc Pagoda (and show cars/race cars like Alfa Carabo (probably the greatest show car ever), Ferrari 206 SP, Porsche 906, Lola T70 - although strictly speaking, a Alfa 33 Stradale is more race car than road car).

    I hope other F-chatters (Karen, Simon, Ian, Greg, Moretti, Horse, Arvin, Dan, Wes, Steve...etc) put up their list.

    I'm sure there are other glaring choices that I missed.

    P.S
    I had to include a couple of American designs as this period was the pinnacle of American car styling and there can be no denying they had a big influence over design all around the world. Bill Mitchell was an absolute master.
     
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  19. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    I agree with many of the cars you guys have nominated by choice.

    I would also add

    S3 Flying Spur Style last of the great Sports derived RR/B cars

    '68 Series 1 XJ6 The future

    105 GTA Driver's car

    DBS 6-cylinder Style change

    Lotus Cortina

    Mini Cooper S

    1st Gen Mustang '64

    Toyota 2000 GT
     
  20. MrGrigio

    MrGrigio Formula 3

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    Ah yes - the Jag XJ - probably the first truly beautiful mass production 4 door sedan (ok, 4th gen Lincoln Continental too).

    And yes, I'd take a DBS over a DB4/5. I love the Bill Towns Astons. That's one revision I'd make. A club member has the genuine OMSS Bond car and I prefer it over a DB4/5/6 every time I see it next to one. I think the reason I put the DB5 in my list is because most DBS are poorly specced but a DB5 always looks fantastic regardless of condition.

    If my list were the most significant cars of the 60s, certainly the Mini Cooper, Jag XJ and Gen 1 Mustang would be in there.

    I just chose the top 10 cars that were beautiful works of art to my eyes and made my willy tingle. An Alfa 105 is a glaring omission on my list as I adore them too.
     
  21. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

    Oct 22, 2004
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    I had to go and google the Toronado because the combination of “Oldsmobile” and “dainty” just did not compute!
     
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  22. MrGrigio

    MrGrigio Formula 3

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    When you compare the 1966/1967 model to the 1968, you can see how the bumpers and grille changed and became much much larger. Its all relative.

    The early model really integrated the front bumper so all you see is kinda see is bumperettes at the ends of the front.
     
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  23. MrGrigio

    MrGrigio Formula 3

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    What is your list Karen? - I do know a Fiat 500 is on your list on most beautiful designs but that 'ain't' a 60's design.
     
  24. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 7, 2006
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    Arvin Grajau
    I often think of cars I'd grown up with parents owned,road around in the 60s /70s or often reflect on my own cars and what I would drive in the 60s ,for me the early 60s Jaguar mark 3.8 manual on wire wheels .as a daily driver .later on into 60s perhaps a Falcon XR/XT GT, changing every 2nd year .And for fun a GTV 1600/1750.
     
  25. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 7, 2006
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    Arvin Grajau
    Many of those early yank '60s mucle cars , when Googled were limited production cars , hence their value today .
     

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