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458 Exhaust / What would you do or have done?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by ParkerT, Feb 28, 2023.

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  1. ParkerT

    ParkerT Rookie

    Jun 30, 2022
    11
    I just purchased a 458

    What would most do here?

    1) Leave it Stock
    2) Valve Controller
    3) Cat Back Exhaust System
    4) Headers / Sport Cats / Exhaust System
     
  2. ShadowLAP

    ShadowLAP Formula Junior

    May 15, 2017
    590
    SW Suburbs of Chicago, IL
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    Lawrence P.
    I have a 2015 Spider. I kept the stock exhaust but had the valves capped so they are open. I can adjust the loudness with the gas pedal and RPM's.
     
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  3. ParkerT

    ParkerT Rookie

    Jun 30, 2022
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    Does it leave you with an experience, or are you ever wanting it louder?
     
  4. PMiranda

    PMiranda Formula Junior

    Jul 23, 2004
    639
    Austin, TX
    Previous owner had installed a controller but I leave it in stock position all the time. If I want quiet, I use sport. If i want loud I use race. Either way if you open up the throttle it makes happy noises.
     
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  5. ShadowLAP

    ShadowLAP Formula Junior

    May 15, 2017
    590
    SW Suburbs of Chicago, IL
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    Lawrence P.
    I like the sound and it is loud enough to enjoy the pop and runoff but not an eardrum bursting scream that I have heard on certain aftermarket systems. If I drop the rpms to 2500 I can relatively "sneak" into my neighborhood without attracting too much attention. However, if I want to announce my arrival, just drop down a gear, bring the RPM to 3500 and it sings.
     
  6. Shorn355

    Shorn355 F1 Veteran
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    ^^^ Precisely ^^^
     
  7. FFan5

    FFan5 Formula Junior

    Jul 7, 2018
    550
    If you purchased a Speciale, you have to get an X-pipe catback. I replaced the whole thing, but otherwise you are stuck with a loud vacuum cleaner.

    If you purchased an Italia/Spider, plugging the valves or getting a controller works just fine. The car sounds really good from the factory.
     
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  8. Need4Spd

    Need4Spd F1 Veteran

    Feb 24, 2007
    6,678
    Silicon Valley
    Valve controller. Once you have it, you may not feel any need for other exhaust mods. It’s also the most cost-effective of your alternatives to stock.


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  9. Beez

    Beez Karting
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    May 22, 2016
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    I recently bought a Forza controller for my new to me Spider. I'm stoked about the plan to stay quiet or not when I want. I find the ever-repeating open/close/open of the valve in stock mode annoying.
     
  10. docf

    docf Formula 3

    Sep 14, 2008
    1,416
    Florida
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    Gary
    I have a 15 Italia that is stock with a valve controller. I am very satisfied sound wise with the current setup. Plenty of crackles & pitch, yet satisfactory sound modulation when desired. This car is the only 2nd of the 6 that I've owned that the exhaust remained factory.
     
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  11. Mafiaboy1975

    Mafiaboy1975 Formula Junior

    Aug 10, 2019
    261
    South Africa
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    Mick
    Cat bypass pipes and a Capristo rear box with remote and OBD.

    It’s very loud and at high rpm is awesome.

    Regular driving around the closed valves make it usable.

    Having done cat-less my preference is probably 100 or 200 cats.

    I’m wanting to turn the volume down just a bit for when I cruise around vs riding it like it’s stolen.

    I’m currently looking for a set of 100 or 200 cats if anyone wants to offload a pair.


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  12. MKS0129

    MKS0129 Karting

    Mar 4, 2022
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    Matt S
    I purchased S-Line Race exhaust for my Speciale several months back but have yet to put it on. I need to get around to doing it soon.
     
  13. cp.3643

    cp.3643 Rookie

    Oct 13, 2022
    11
    San Diego
    just picked up a 2013 a couple of weeks ago. i'm getting a valve controller installed next week, then will decide from there if i'm going to add an aftermarket exhaust. (i most likely will.) still on the fence whether i should get a tune to bring back the "burbles" that the 2010 - 2011 models had.


     
  14. 3POINT8

    3POINT8 F1 Veteran
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    Nothing needed.
     
  15. Eric C

    Eric C F1 World Champ
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    drill holes in the muffler
     
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  16. USMCS6

    USMCS6 F1 Rookie
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    I have 200 cell cats with stock after. Really nice. Unless you open the cats up, you are not gaining performance. I may change after the cats, but no hurry.
     
  17. Boiler Inspector

    Boiler Inspector Formula Junior

    Oct 14, 2017
    352
    Texas
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    Brian
    I just had a full Kline inconel exhaust installed: headers , 200 cell cats and valvetronic exhaust. The installing shop described it as "wicked" when I called to check the status and said it was the best sounding exhaust on a 458 they had ever heard. I was more excited to pick it from the shop after the exhaust was installed than I was waiting for the delivery truck when I first bought it last year. The stock sound is excellent, probably because the engine is great, but a quality exhaust system transforms the car and experience. I suggest trying to find a local 458 friend who has one so you can hear it in person and in the car. It will definitely help you decide how much more noise you need or can tolerate.
     
  18. Boiler Inspector

    Boiler Inspector Formula Junior

    Oct 14, 2017
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    I had a Forza valve controller installed too, but I just run the valves open all the time.
     
  19. Sargepug

    Sargepug Formula Junior

    Mar 23, 2020
    888
    NYC
    I simply installed a Capristo valve controller, to me that's all a 458 needs....
     
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  20. RickH3

    RickH3 Rookie

    Feb 14, 2010
    18
    I installed the Forza controller; that is all I need! Gives great options for what sound you want.
     
  21. Need4Spd

    Need4Spd F1 Veteran

    Feb 24, 2007
    6,678
    Silicon Valley
    I found the stock opening points annoying, too. It seems like Ferrari should have made the opening point require more rpm or load, because in normal driving it would open and close way too much. The Forza controller’s ability to keep it open or closed is better.


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  22. todd cloud

    todd cloud Formula 3

    Jun 21, 2019
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    the controllers will open a closed valve, but will never close an open one
     
  23. Boiler Inspector

    Boiler Inspector Formula Junior

    Oct 14, 2017
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  24. todd cloud

    todd cloud Formula 3

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    Yes. That is how the Capristo unit operates.

    Closing an open exhaust valve is an incredibly bad idea.
     
  25. Boiler Inspector

    Boiler Inspector Formula Junior

    Oct 14, 2017
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    As illustrated above, with the Forza controller the valves can be closed. There are certain conditions where that is not advisable, those being it's a turbocharged car, or at wide open throttle/passing situations.
     

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