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Hamilton deserves more respect

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  1. absostone

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    "We win together but if we loose, you're on your own"
     
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    The LH 'ownage' of the forum here continues in 2023 LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL - Get a life! :) If only some here were paid by the post about LH LOL! :) RedBull and Max won and are winning. No one is happy yet LOL!
     
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    I'm very happy. But I very much like to point out yet more hypocrisy his Lewisness, the same guy that said "my team doesn't make mistakes".
     
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    Hamilton bashing is part of a therapy for some, it seems, to the point of obsession.
    They need a scapegoat in their life and seek relief returning constantly to their hate figure.
    A psychatrist would have a field day examining some of the characters on here !
     
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  6. william

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    Don't you have anything better to do to fill your days then?

    That point has been made time and time again.

    I have news for you: individuals are not perfect. Deal with it.
     
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    Schumacher would have never said that publicly.
     
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    the 10 seconds it took to write that post really skewed my day.
     
  9. william

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    Heil Schumacher then !!! But he had other character flaws, did he not?
     
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    Indeed but his team loyalty was a big quality to my eyes.
    Hamilton saying this publicly is very telling about his personality.
    How do you say « ingratitude » ?
     
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    Or, you can just chalk it up to stubborn, opinionated fans who zealously enjoy debating the sport and its drivers, but I guess it's more fun to play armchair psychologist. :)
     
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    Yeah not Schumachers style. When Schumacher's car is not fast enough, he rams into other drivers, puts their life in danger ...PUBLICLY
     
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    I don't recall Schumacher ever say anything negative about Ferrari during his tenure with the team, or after, but I could be mistaken. The circumstances are different, however.
     
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    Ungratefulness
     
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    Yes, loosing control and resorting to physical aggression was one aspect of his character.
     
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    I read on GPToday that Toto Wolff calls this year Mercedes a "trash car" and is going to write off this season.

    If the CEO and team principal can publicly critise his design team to harshly, I cannot see why the drivers could hold back.

    Having said that, these outbursts are really unnecessary and undignified. They may be demotivating to a point.
     
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    Yes. And this comes from the same guy that spend the last 8 or so years hammering the point down that ''we do not have a blame culture, we work the problem" and all sorts of cheap talk that's easy when you're winning everything under the sun. Plenty of us called them out for it back then, as we are now.

    Yet the moment it goes wrong the toys go flying and the team gets blamed. Same guys that engineered them to 15 titles. They're still the 3rd best team. All their cheap talk they've hammered down for years, flaunting it up and down the pitlane, out of the window like that. They act like it's their God given right to win titles, to win all the races. Humility? They haven't got an ounce of it.

    For years whenever someone complained, Mercedes, despite their locked in engine advantage, taunted the rest by saying "build a better car", and at the same time begging for some sort of competition. Every damn time they had an ounce of competition they ran to the FIA crying that everything needed to be fixed in their favour. We all saw the reaction Toto had when it was thrown right back at him last year. I have the utter disdain for them.
     
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    " Victory has many fathers. Defeat is an orphan"

    Attributing oneself any success and blaming others for your failure is as old as the world, I think.
    People invariably say different things at different times and under different circumstances, I found.
    That's nothing unusual, mostly in the media circus around F1 where reactions, scoops and soundbites are regularly solicited.
    I cannot believe that you are naive enough to believe everything people say.
    That's no defense of Toto who should control his temper and keep his counsel to himself. Poor show for a CEO in my book.
    These guys have very strong egos, some of it brought them where they are (like Horner, Steiner, etc ...) and always look at their advantage, even if it means blatantly contradicting what they said before as you have noted.
    That's a facet of human nature, unfortunately, and one of the reasons why I don't hang to any of their statement.
     
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    and that's exactly my point. People eating it up as fact.
     
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    He just can't stop proving his "haters" right, can he?

    Even Lewis himself knows in his heart that his success was 100% attributable to the car and is desperate to try to take as much credit for himself as he can, no matter who he has to hurt along the way. I suppose Mercedes listened to him all seasons prior. :rolleyes:
     
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    Seems a nerve has been struck.
     
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    Is his current results %100 attributable to the car?
     
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    You would think a seven-time champion would carry himself with more humility and graciousness than the Ferrari driver who has been in an abusive relationship with his own team. Defend it all you want; it's a bad look.
     
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    Yes. I've said for years that as a driver he is precisely as good as the car he's driving. No better and no worse. He's good and consistent, but not an exceptional talent. His ego (and his fans) can't come to grips with that, though, so we see all manner of acting out.
     
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