Hamilton deserves more respect

Bro, I don't know why you all are getting so emotional about that. Hamilton priases the team in public and condemns the team in public. But he praises the the team 90% of the time. He has always done this. I think he should condemn the team more. After how Max treats his team, this Hamilton article shouldn't even be news. But Hamilton is a media magnet I get it.

 

Why didn't his team mates score the same points in the same car if the car determines %100 result?

 

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How is it possible for Rosberg and other drivers to get separate results when the car is %100 percent cause and driver is 0% effect? So it was %100 car for Rosberg and Russell?

 

Does that not apply to all drivers? Or are you saying if Max was driving the Alfa Romao he would have still beat Alonso at Bahrain?

The thing with saying " precisely as good as the car he's driving" is it applys to every one ever.

Can you post a picture of the 2017 season final standings?

 

Lewis has consistently had second-driver level teammates and those teammates have been disadvantaged relative to Lewis by the team. Yet, each of those teammates outperformed him in significant ways with one even taking a WDC.

The fact that the Merc has been so good means that for most of his career he's only had to beat one driver, and that one driver was the disadvantaged #2 on his own team. There are a lot of drivers who would have achieved as much if not more than Lewis, given the same circumstances.

 

Quiet man, I 'm trying to see how many crazy things he can come up with.

 

There are drivers who can consistently get the most out of a car and there are drivers who are inconsistent but sometimes brilliant. Lewis is neither of those. He is consistent and good, but not great.

 

If you are honest, you have to admit that over a F1 career that started in 2007, Hamilton outscored his team mates most years, bar 2011, 2016 and 2022. On average that's very successful.
His team mates were Alonso, Kovalainen, Button, Rosberg, Bottas and Russell.
Hamilton 2 - Button 1 over 3 years of partnership
Hamilton 2 - Rosberg 1 over 3 years of partnership
Hamilton 0 - Russell 1

 

How can his team mates outperform him when they have 0% involvment and the car is %100 involvment?

 

That's not what I said and you know it.

 

He was the designated #1 in each of those years, with the Button years arguable. How the hell does a designated #1 lose a WDC to a career #2 driver? That's like Barrichello beating MS to a WDC. It's incomprehensible.

 

Hamilton was certainly not #1 against Alonso at McLaren ! Lol He was a kid against a twice WDC !
There was no team orders with Button, and even the year Button outscored him (2011), they both won 3 GPs each.
I don't agree that Hamilton was designated #1 or given an advantage during his years with Rosberg.
Rosberg was quite entitled to attack him, and Toto Wolff let them battle; a luxury when you have a dominant car.
The Mercedes was so superior compared to the rest of the field that they could afford the risk.
They made contact several times, proving the intensity of the fight too.
Nico managed to beat Hamilton only one year out of 3. Fair enough.
Toto recruited Bottas who had less experience, so maybe then, Hamilton was given precedence in view of his titles, also Ferrari became a threat with Vettel for a couple of years, so there was no need to risk it.
Although fast, I don't think Bottas was consistent enough to challenge anyway; he constantly lost places at the start.
Hamilton's form dropped significantly since 2021, I would agree with that.

 

Your words: "his success was 100% attributable to the car"
Wich means Hamilton contributed 0%. I'm not a math professor, but I know that %100 leaves 0%. So again, how can his team mates outperform him when they have 0% involvment and the car is %100 involvment?

 

Schumacher pioneered the phrase #1 driver. Schumacher is known to have "built the team" which automatically puts him in the #1 driver role. Which gave Schumacher the easiest team mate advantage and more benefits than any other champion. Senna and Prost was allowed to battle. Hamilton and Rosberg, Button was allowed to battle. No team mate was allowed to battle Schumacher. Haters think we are still living in the Schumacher era where team mates are not allowed to battle. Wrong. In ways,Senna and Hamilton worked harder for their titles.

 

Ktu and William have this covered.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10068078-lewis-hamilton-says-mercedes-f1-team-didnt-listen-to-concerns-over-2023-car-design

Lewis Hamilton is upset at Mercedes after his Formula One team refused to make changes he recommended after a rough 2022 season.

"It's about owning up and saying, 'Yeah, you know what? We didn't listen to you. It's not where it needs to be and we've got to work'," Hamilton said on BBC Radio 5 Live's Chequered Flag podcast (via Andrew Benson of BBC Sport).

As Benson noted, most teams have followed the designs pioneered by Red Bull heading into the 2023 season, while Mercedes will stick with its own "zero-sidepod" concept.

Mercedes team principal Toto Wolff already admitted this was a mistake after qualifying for the first race of the season, planning changes with his engineers.


Red Bull Racing cruised to a team victory last year behind champion Max Verstappen, who won 15 of 22 races. Mercedes fell to third behind Ferrari, with Hamilton falling to sixth place in the final standings. The British driver had won the championship in six of the previous eight years, never finishing lower than second.

It was Hamilton's first season in Formula One where he didn't win a single race.

The 38-year-old said he told Mercedes about the problems a year ago.

"Last year, there were things I told them. I said the issues that are with the car," Hamilton said. "I've driven so many cars in my life. I know what a car needs. I know what a car doesn't need. I think it's really about accountability."

Hamilton finished in fifth place in Sunday's Bahrain Grand Prix, with teammate George Russell finishing in seventh.

 

Typical Lewis, throwing his team under the bus.

 

Ham sticking his bottom lip out. Publicly.
Very mature.

 

Is he not just repeating things but with a little more detail which Toto has already said when he annouced James Allisons return to the team a few days ago?

 

Suzie Wolff moving into the granny annex for some mellow time ?

 

What do you call a person is who silent when Hamilton praises his team as he did after the race, but loud when he condemns his team?
But then silent again when Max curses his team?

 

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I'm kinda guessing that EVERY single driver ever in F1 has "told the team what to do to fix the car" or however he worded it, but usually it's just as simple as "this car stinks, make it go faster"

 

If only Leclerc told Ferrari to fix the reliability...