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Down to the wire - Azzuro Metalizzato or Grigio Alloy

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  1. SCantera

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    #1 SCantera, Mar 9, 2023
    My 812 GTS is finally in the pre-stage for a July build. When I initially spec'd it a year ago I selected Azzuro Metalizzato [AM] for the paint color. Cost for this Historical Color at the time was $13,499. Now that the process is just starting to build the cost of AM is $32,904........about a $20k increase.

    I am debating whether to pay the freight and stick with AM or possible go with Grigio Alloy [GA].

    Iain [Isuk here] graciously too pics of 5 different paint samples....two gray and three blues.
    Two of the 3 are AM and GA. Seems the two colors can look the same in specific light variations.
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/the-official-ferrari-812-gts-pictures-thread.613465/page-141

    Can anyone tell me if this car is AM or GA?
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  2. ryalex

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    #3 Thecadster, Mar 9, 2023
    I just finalized my 812GTS and my historical paint (Verde Abetone) cost was the same $13,499 yours was originally. I wonder, is the new quoted cost a mistake, or was the old quoted cost a mistake? Either would seem more likely than the cost simply tripling.
     
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  4. Caeruleus11

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    #4 Caeruleus11, Mar 9, 2023
    This is really an only you know how you will feel about going with a substitute and not paying the upchage or paying for just what you wanted question. I like both colors but I say this is Ferrari- get it just how you want it.
     
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  5. SCantera

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    #5 SCantera, Mar 9, 2023
    The dealer is saying that Ferrari took AM off the Historical list and put it on the special order list. Same price as a triple layer system. But AM is much simpler metallic paint.
     
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    #6 ryalex, Mar 9, 2023
    +1 Once you're up over $500k they know $32k for paint is something we consider begrudgingly, even though it's straight up extortionary.

    As I've posted several times before Alfa's "Misano pearl blue" for the Quadrifoglio is indistinguishable from Blu Corsa and is +$600, not +$24,000.
     
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    #7 Edward 96GTS, Mar 9, 2023
    i would never spend $xxx on a color i havent seen in person.
     
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    #8 isuk, Mar 9, 2023
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    The 812 in your post is Azzuro Metallizatto 592. Under the new pricing scheme that is classed as a PNTC colour and is charged at £8,218 in the UK including VAT so I'd ask your dealer to recheck the price they are quoting you for it. I've been through a long process to try and get a handle on which colours fall into each code price band and my dealer was able to glean a lot of info via MODIS and also from the Atelier.

    That photo has been altered using filters. Here are some unfiltered photo's of the same car on a dull day.
     

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    #10 ryalex, Mar 9, 2023
    I would spend the money to get a more vivid color, either AC or AM.
     
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    #11 isuk, Mar 9, 2023
    I'd say they are far more representative of the true colour as I considered it for my 812 GTS spec and did a speed shape spray out of the colour (apologies for the plastic moulding defect in the shape I used).

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    Grigio Alloy looks much lighter on a car so it depends how blue you'd like the car to be. The Roma in the back of this shot I took is Grigio Alloy for comparison.

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  13. SCantera

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    #13 SCantera, Mar 9, 2023
    Thank you much Iain!!! You have been very helpful with pictures and comparisons of the 2 colors. The GTS for sale at the Swindon dealership is very close to my choices!! And it's $100k less than what build will end up costing!!! Course the main issue is that steering wheel is on the wrong side....lol.

    I really appreciate your effort and input.
     
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    #14 isuk, Mar 9, 2023
    Happy to help out as I know the agony of getting these choices right and the fear of getting them wrong.
     
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    #15 SCantera, Mar 9, 2023
    When you say "new pricing scheme" do you know when this took affect? On my options list updated 2/24/23 Azzuro Metalizzato shows up on the last [3rd] page at the bottom. Not on the 1st page where Additional Colors [PTNA] $6243, Ferrari Historical Colors [PTNH] $12487 and Special Colors [PTNN] $12487 are located about 3/4s down the page. This extraordinary cost for a simple metallic paint seems illogical. Not a happy camper about this.

    While Grigio Alloy is no extra charge it just doesn't have the color saturation like the Azzuro Metalizzato.
     
  16. SCantera

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    #16 SCantera, Mar 9, 2023
    Maybe Ferrari is either trying to gig me a bit or they don't want to paint AM anymore.
     
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  17. SCantera

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    #17 SCantera, Mar 9, 2023
    And getting the right paint color is a HUGE choice.
     
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    #18 SCantera, Mar 9, 2023
    When I specified last year Azzuro Metalizzato was classified as a "Ferrari Historical Color" with cold PNTH. Now they have reclassified it as Vintage Paint PNT1. Strange.

    I am trying to get my dealer to go back to Ferrari and explain why they reclassified the paint color and are charging so much. The dealer said production of my car was held up due to the paint selection upcharge.......I just don't see how it can increase by $20k when it's not a special color.
     
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    #19 isuk, Mar 9, 2023
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    I used the term new pricing scheme loosely as Ferrari reclassified the colours with the launch of the 296. Azzurro 592 used to be classified as a PNTC "Colori anni '50-'60". I was advised that in MODIS it is now listed as a PNTC 2 layer special colour.

    I think you have mis-typed your paint codes as they should be EXTC - Exterior Colour, PNTN - Special Launch Colour, PNTH - Historical Ferrari Colours, PNCC - Classic Colours, PNTA - Additional Colours, PNTE - 3 & 4 Layer Special Colours, PNT1 - 2 Layer upon request Special Colours, PNTM - Masearti Colours, PNTO - 2 Layer Special Colours, PNTC - 2 Layer Special Colours, PNMT - Matt Special Colours and PNTD Special Colour on demand. The factory have allocated colours within each of those groupings that are the more commonly requested choices.

    Someone on the forum (I forget who) posted this screen shot of the US prices which also show Azzurro 592 as being a PNTC colour at $13,499. The colours by groupings correspond to what I was told are currently in MODIS and I was able to add a few more after putting in pricing requests for some colours that are not listed on it.

    Azzurro California 21 is the colour that is categorised as a PNT1 option code and that is possibly where your dealer is making an error on the system. I'd ask them to recheck on Azzurro Met 592 as it is in the PNTC group and is considerably less money.

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    #20 SCantera, Mar 9, 2023
    Just got this email from the dealer....I was afraid this was the reason. When they build cars they probably group the cars with the same color selections to go into the paint booth consecutively. But with no orders for Azzuro Metalizzato except mine the paint change is going to cost. Oh well.......

    "My sales rep is in today from Ferrari North America. He is saying that the vehicles that are getting painted with the Azzuro Metallic and Azzuro California is so rare they are taking them off the line which is why the factory switched them to PNT1... The only other option is Azzurro Monaco and that would be less money."
     
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    #21 SCantera, Mar 9, 2023
    More explanation from the dealer:

    "..... the factory flagged the order and won’t let us put it in because they changed some of the historic colors to the PNT0 code. Pretty much all the light metallic blues. Celest Met, Avio Met, Azzuro Met and Azzuro California.

    The factory has also changed the pricing on a bunch of stuff. I have to go by what the factory communication is, our documents they sent us are also outdated and they didn’t update us, they just flagged the order. ☹"
     
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    #25 gilly6993, Mar 9, 2023
    While $20K is nothing to sneeze at my guess is the cost will be long forgotten over your ownership. Looking at the car knowing you originally wanted a different color will last forever


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