The Purosangue Thread

I can do all that faster in my Durango Hellcat than a PS and get an 812 thrown in for free. Granted, I do have to give up the adaptive suspension on the way to Home Depot.

 

I never mentioned speed as an important metric. And the people who can afford a $500k car dont have to choose. They will get the 812, Durango Hellcat AND the Puro.

 

Does that Durango (whatever that might be) do 193 mph, or 0-124 in 10.6''?

 

What an odd thing to say.

 

I have no idea what the actual numbers are ... I know it smokes a Urus off the line so it's real world fast enough whilst being utilitarian and great if you don't like to be standing out at Trader joes or Home Depot, as is my preference.

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Btw I have a PS on order with deposit down, I went to the launch event, sat in it, like the car, and I'm weighing if I want to keep the allocation. If I do it will admittedly be more for the cool and interesting engineering factor and because it's something different, as there's really no rational reason in it at its price point. It's a car that does everything great but nothing exceptionally, depending on one's perspective that's either the best of all worlds or the most compromised of all worlds ... as expected, all the reviews came saying it is amazing as an SUV, which is akin to saying 'I can't believe this 300 pound woman/man can dance that well' ... and I'm trying to decide if that's appealing to me, and if it is, is it as a passing fancy or something I want to dance with for 18 months minimum..

 

Thanks for sharing

 

They did an amazing job with the design.

 

Thought this was the most interesting question and response for what the future holds for this car:

W*: Could this platform be used for a hybrid powertrain?

FM: It’s just a matter of embracing a technology that has different perspectives and objectives. For example, with electric cars designers are talking more about drag. With ICE cars, we are more concerned with downforce.

 

Perhaps more importantly, how many times a day/week/month/etc suburban soccer moms to whom ALL SUVs are mainly intended for need or utilize such “performance” ?

 

Just saw this on FB. LOL.

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https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/149040429/

 

I think I posted that comparison way early on in this thread.

 

certain parts of it just look so messy I think, I do agree that it looks better than an Urus though which looks quite frankly stupid
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I think it's just the 'average.' I think a lot depends on your net worth. I know folks that make 500K a year but with negative net worth due to high debt. They probably should NOT get this car.

On the other hand, somebody with 200K a year, zero debt and no kids, own their house outright, and say 5M in the bank. Why not? The proverbial you only live once applies here me thinks.

 

I'm sure it's dated, I think it's was like 5 years old - lots changed since then. This is just the 'average.' not the PS target.

 

I would agree with you with most cars, the above is indeed 'messy' What changed my outlook on this car though is all the black areas are all real intakes, especially the ones around the light.

 

The car is a mess and totally a pointless fundamental concept. It's simply a money grab, it does nothing inventive and does nothing new.

 

Blu Corsa looks pretty sharp. Tempting....

 

I agree its kind a messy but I guess not "stupid"

 

A public company making a profit for its shareholders is certainly not pointless. The suspension is certainly inventive and new and will make its way to the sports and GT cars with each new model. When brands that I like make money, that’s a good thing, even if I don’t like all of their products. As long as Ferrari uses the money to further develop the cars we all love, why should we care? Nobody is refusing a GT3RS allocation because their beloved Porsche earns most of it’s profit from SUVs and … ugh … electric cars.


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Out of curiosity, does anyone know the how/why this suspension differs from those active suspensions already on the market? What does this do "special" other than the underlying mechanics? I ordered the PASM in my wife's Posche Cayenne GTS back in 2013...........drove the DBX. How does this one differ and how is it better than the others under normal driving conditions, other than on paper?

 

Most "active" suspensions only change how the dampener reacts under load, either through changing the viscosity (Magnetorheological) or valving. So you can alter the stiffness between the left and right dampers to counteract roll in a corner but the effect is minimal. So you need an anti roll bar which couples the left and right together which reduces roll, but makes bumps worse because then both sides feel it. The solution to that is to have an active anti roll bar that can change the stiffness of that coupling. There is also Mclaren's hydraulic solution.

However, neither of these solutions can actively articulate the damper (therefore wheel) in anticipation of the road surface or car movement. They should really be called semi-active or reactive. Ferrari's (more Multimatic's) solution is to fit an electric motor to the dampener tube so that each individual wheel can be moved up and down to pushback against body roll or move along with bumps. Hence, True Active. Combined with the variable valving in theory it should allow for a wider range of compliance and ride quality.

Not sure about their effectiveness on sportscars as the dampeners look to be very heavy, and the motors are on the top end of the shock to avoid it contributing to unsprung weight but hurts CoG. Maybe acceptable for a SUV which is already high up and given the thick antirollbar it replaces might result in a net improvement in the weight departments. On a lighter vehicle not so sure.

 

Well Motortrend just came out with a relevant article:
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a43272506/multimatic-active-suspension-tasv/