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And now, my old Dino no. 05020 is on BaT.

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  1. DinoLasse

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    A friend of mine alerted me to the fact that my old Dino was being auctioned on BaT.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-ferrari-dino-7/


    I do not expect it to bring any record prices. It is my experience from other auctions (Scottsdale, etc.) that genuinely good original cars tend to fly under the radar. Flashy new paint jobs and sparkling new restorations tend to bring the top prices. And, of course, the usual ”hooks” like Chairs and Flares. This car has none of those.
    Instead, here we have an unmolested standard US model, correct and original (except for a repaint 33 years ago), low mileage, in meticulously maintained rust-free condition. To me, those are very valuable qualities. To the auction bidders, we’ll see.
     
  2. 4CamGT

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    Already up to $350K with 5 days to go. I think your old Dino will do well. Turnkey and ready to enjoy!
     
  3. mccand

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    Thanks for weighing in at BaT and here as well, Lars! With tools and search engines like classic.com, I think very few auction sales go “under the radar” (just private ones I guess, for which I don’t personally have any insight))… with BaT’s huge reach and relatively tiny fee, I think it is a wise choice for a seller, regardless of condition. (And I do think the condition on yours here is extraordinary!) Though the provenance could and should have been more fully understood upfront, and that driving video, while a bit hard to watch, is an absolute testament to the health of that gearbox! My Dino requires much more love and care to coax between gears!

    it will continue to be fun to watch.
    Here is the classic.com link in case you don’t have it. There is a similar one for GTSs, and you can “subscribe” to be notified of new listings.

    https://www.classic.com/m/ferrari/dino/246-gt/?utm_source=share

    cheers!
     
  4. DinoLasse

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    You may be right, Freeman. Yes, it is a smooth and sweet driving car, ready to use.
    And it is proof that all unrestored Dinos are not necessarily hopeless rust buckets.

    I have no stake in it now, of course, I just wish it will find a good home where it is appreciated, and where the owner perhaps will continue to preserve it. After so many years with the car, some emotional attachment is unavoidable!
     
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  5. DinoLasse

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    No problem, Greg. I just felt I had to pitch in and tell about the history and background of the car. More openness and information is always good, I think, both for the seller and the buyer.

    Yes, that driving video is unusual to say the least. Although I often shift just as fast in my freshly rebuilt Euro Dino, I never use as much force as that driver appears to do. That looked a little disturbing.

    And thanks for that link! I did not know about that particular site. Very interesting and useful.
     
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  6. Ken Ivey

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    Thanks Lars. Not only for the great input on BaT, but for the descriptor "disturbing". When i first saw the video, I didn't think, "what great syncros". I though. "who would do that?". "Disturbing" sums it up nicely. :)
     
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  7. UroTrash

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  8. 19633500GT

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    Seems like it should've sold, but I am probably in the minority in that opinion.
     
  9. DinoLasse

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    The bidding was very good and very fair, in my opinion. The seller had simply set the reserve too high. After all, he paid 360,000 for the car 2 years ago, and has put 700 miles on it since then. It is no longer as immaculate as it was, and no longer detailed to a show level, as a buyer would expect in order to pay a record price. 380,000 would have been a good and respectable price to expect. The top bid of 429,000 plus 5% = 450,000 was a very good and generous offer.
     
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  10. 19633500GT

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    Small caveat, it would’ve just been $434K all in (5% is capped at/over $100K on BaT sales)

    Beyond that, I still feel $400-430K was easily enough. But not my car, not my money :/
     
  11. DinoLasse

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    OK, thanks for that correction. Still, conclusion is the same: I agree, it should have sold at that price.
     
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  12. Neelfryer

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    I can't imagine they were too far from the reserve - but who knows

    BAT is its own world - I track it regularly

    I always watch every Dino auction closely

    there is a new Dino on today that is C+F and seemingly concours level that may chase the elusive 1M result

    you should see what has happened to 2009 Jaguar XJ sedans

    3 have recently sold on BAT for 175k - 156K and the other is up there too ?

    that market was created seemingly overnite as I have been shopping for 2006-2009 XJ's and bidding on them on BAT

    I was in the high teens and low 20's - and now this?!

    granted these are special and rare version of the 2009 but STILL!!!?
     
  13. Dino246gts

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    It does appear to have C’s, but no F’s. Nice car with over 100,000 miles.
     
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  14. Neelfryer

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    yes - no flares
     
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  16. Sergio Tavares

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    terrible snaps, seller presentation horrible, to flip the car in short time shows this 05020 had no love
     
  17. gofastertab

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    Greetings! I just joined the club. I purchased the Dino and am eagerly awaiting delivery!! I am so excited to be blessed to fulfill a bucket list top tier item for me. This is my first Ferrari. I own a number of Porsches and other cars and can’t wait to learn more about the Ferrari community and my car. I’ve always been reluctant to invest in a Ferrari due to yearly cost of maintenance they seem to require. However, I couldn’t resist the beauty of this car. To me, it is one of the most sexy cars ever made.
     
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  18. tx246

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    Wow, congratulations!!!!
     
  19. DinoLasse

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    Andy,
    Congratulations!! And welcome to the forum!
    You bought something good, and something real, I can tell you that!
    I am also very glad that you found this forum and chose to join it. The members here are very helpful, and there is a lot of accumulated knowledge available on this site.

    I will be happy to fill in any detail in its history, or any other question you may have about the car. If it is something of general interest, post it here. Or send me a PM, if that is more suitable.

    Anyway, I am very happy that you have come forward here. With the demise of the Dino register, we do not know who owns a specific Dino, unless the owner chooses to appear here. I never knew who the last two owners were, not their name or where they lived, and there was no way for me to contact them. All so secretive and so much hush-hush. But now, a real person with a real name, and on this forum. Wonderful. Again, welcome!

    I am sure you will come to love and enjoy this sweet-running, gorgeous Dino as much as I did.

    Drive and enjoy!
    Lars
     
  20. UroTrash

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    Big Grats! What a great color for a Dino.

    Did you buy it after the auction?
     
  21. gofastertab

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    Yes sir!
     
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  23. gofastertab

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    Hello! Can you tell me how or if I can shut off the heat that is pouring in to the car from the round side vents near floor on both sides? The heat fan is not on, but
    I get a lot of heat when car warms up from there. Can
    I block them off? I don’t want to creat a over heating issue either.
    Thanks!
     
  24. DinoLasse

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    Most likely, the heater valve is not closing properly when the lever is set to cold position. It is a very common problem with the Dino and some other Italian cars from the period. So common, in fact, that some owners install a cut-off valve to the heating element that they keep closed during the summer time.

    But first, look under the dashboard when you move the heater and vent controls. Check that the wires behind the levers move correctly. If they do, next step is to remove the batch-board in the front compartment so that you can see the arm of the heater valve when you move the heater control. Often, the cable sleeve is sliding, or the inner wire is bending when you move the heater control from hot to cold position.

    If the heater valve is moving properly from open to closed position and the heater still remains hot, the heater valve should be replaced.

    Hope that helps.
     
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  25. gofastertab

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    Thanks so much for your help! I am going to investigate it this weekend. I’ll let you know how it goes.
     

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