1995 456GT. Installed these OEM bearings 2018. Very few miles/hours on them. Less than 500 miles and 50 hrs on motor. Mostly idling. Car went for up to 6 months without running. Yes I should drive it more... Garaged in Scottsdale heat where it gets up to 120F. Notice the leak looks like gravity and the leaks are in phase. Covers have streak marks from flung grease. New bearings and belts coming yes but is that normal for these oem bearings? Due to non-use? Alternatives? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
That sux! Image Unavailable, Please Login I ordered the PT 550s from SPUK. Here is my shopping list. Quantity Product Price Amount 2 Cam Belt Tensioner Bearing PT-550 95.00 190.00 2 Wheel Spacer WS025 160.00 320.00 1 Alternator Belt 201444 23.16 23.16 1 Water Pump and Power Steering Pump Belt 199825 17.17 17.17 2 Cam belt 187744 29.93 59.86 2 Cam Belt Tensioner Spring 121249 8.44 16.88 2 Oil filter 206166 19.95 39.90 2 Oil Pressure Sender Washer 10259960 0.24 0.48 2 Crankcase Core Plug Washer 10264560 0.35 0.70 2 Oil Pump Washer 10257460 0.25 0.50 1 Alternator Pulley 148632 86.45 86.45 2 Alternator Tensioner Pulley, Centre Bearing 123350 19.99 39.98 2 Circlip 11060076 0.31 0.62 1 Washer 10297760 0.29 0.29 2 Engine Sump Plug washer 10257060 0.21 0.42 1 Washer 10303460 1.20 1.20 TOTAL £797.6
I was told by a Ferrari pro workshop that this can happen with new bearings which are heavily loaded with grease and they recommended cleaning the bearings and put them back into use as this will stop after excess of grease has been bled. As I was not very convinced I installed Hill Engineering PT-550 bearings.
Ken be careful with OEM bearings. 10-12 years ago Ferrari switched suppliers after SKF discontinued a number of their bearings and the result was very inferior quality. There were a number of threads on here about it, with people trying to get the last of the SKF OEM bearings and there was a point in time where nothing was available except for the inferior Ferrari bearings. Finally Paul Hill stepped up & filled the gap with his own modified version of an SKF or other high quality bearing. The quality problems with the OEM bearings "may" have been resolved, but judging from your experience I still would not trust Ferrari bearings. We all know they go to the lowest bidder and we all know who/where that is....
No one has done a deep dive on these bearing issues. There are many parts to a bearing and anyone can cause failure. Is blowing grease a failure of the bearing or just poor grease selection for the job? I encourage everyone to take used seal bearings and learn to pop the grease seal off. Bearings can be regreased and seal replaced. Yes this is not ideal but if there is a dark time that SKF bearings aren't available but the bearing greased up feels good, I would resuse a regreased SKF bearing before I used a chinese bearing of lower quality. Are bearing spitting grease because the bearings inside are bad or is it the grease? Grease is an easy fix before bearing wear and costs almost nothing. This pic the seal is out and back in on this old tensioner bearing. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
These were mine, but i cant tell how long they had been in there. The HE ones are a nice shade of blue Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
So my SPUK order got stuck in customs. US wants a duty of $46. This is new from the last time I purchased from SPUK. I asked what changed and they said "blah blah blah BREXIT blah blah blah". Sounds like BS,. Anyone else pay duty on imported auto parts?
You in AZ? Buy Ricambi for the HE bearings. And there is another reason...I seem to remember years ago there were some counterfeit HE bearings. So HE started anti-counterfeiting measures. But IMO the easiest anti-counterfeiting measure is to buy directly from HE or Ricambi. HE is in UK but Ricambi is in NC.
I've had issues buying parts from the UK - not specifically SP but others, and of course the problem is once you finally have them in hand and discover they're wrong, etc. then do you really want to pay return freight back to the UK and incur the delays & hassles? Never had an issue with Daniel & Ricambi. Sure, maybe he costs a bit more, but you can be sure of what you're getting and if it's not right, I'm sure he'll make it right and it won't take weeks crossing the pond, going through Customs, etc. Personally I wouldn't buy from anyone else unless Daniel simply can't source the part, or I'm looking for a used part from a breaker, etc.
Ferrari is pretty notorious for price shopping. They are one of the cheaper auto companies around. The stuff made in house is generally very high quality but what gets them every time is their choice of outside suppliers, some are very good, some are the cheapest they can find. As John said the bearings have been junk for years. They are being sourced from every 3rd world, low bidder, slave labor country you can imagine. Many have no markings of any kind. I was told some time ago never ship a package to the USA with bearings listed on the manifest. Old US law about importation of bearings and customs has no qualms about clearing them when they feel like it.
Within the last year, I have ordered Hill bearings from Superperformance and accessory pully bearings(123350) from Eurospares, unless the UK can get away with it, I'd say that is an old wives tale or not relevant info anymore.
Bearing seals are not absolute. Have seen many very high quality bearings with some seepage. If you pay attention to seal designs it favors keeping debris out not grease in. The parting line of the seal is at the inner diameter. Centrifugal force will keep the grease at the outer diameter, unless excess grease is present. The OP bearings were a different matter. The grease did not get flung out, it flowed out.
It was no wives tale. Sorry. It was a federal policy to protect American bearing manufacturers. Its also quite obvious it does not interfere in most cases.
Hmm, I was assuming he meant Scuderia Car Parts. It's rumored that they have a sweetheart deal direct with Modena and supply a lot of genuine Ferrari parts to reseller houses here in the US, probably much to the frustration of FNA..... And they also sell direct to end users like Scowman, if my assumption is correct. I still would only buy Hill bearings and other parts from Ricambi. I tried another UK supplier mentioned above (not Superformance) and that was enough.... Brian is spot on about his assessment of the US government protecting US bearing manufacturers. Those guys have a very strong lobby in DC and they don't like the far eastern bearing people invading their market.
