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Discussion in 'Australia' started by Aircon, Apr 26, 2011.

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  1. greg246

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  2. Arvin Grajau

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    Are you a Communist?
     
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    Why are you people always bickering and fighting?
     
  5. kerrari

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    So will any of these subs have the ability to launch a guided missile towards a land target from a deep waterposition?
     
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    And hopefully it’s the gateway drug for nuclear arms
     
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    Always like this show :)
     
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  10. DMWC

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    Having conducted four RIMPAC deployments with Nuclear and Conventional submarines plus participating in dozens of FXPs in the EAXA and WAXA and throughout SE Asia I have never heard of a submarine being detected unless they wanted to.
    Typically on the last day of the exercise they would deliberately get detected just so that the flyboys and ASW teams did not get demoralised.



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  11. moretti

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    I was waiting for you to pop up, and what you say is true to an extent, conventional are undetectable to a large degree except when they come up to run the diesel generators to charge the batteries and even then due to the pollution still hard to detect but nuclear make so much noise that they can be heard and they don't care

    I did 3 RIMPAC and the F-111 was commissioned to sink the 7th fleet which they couldn't do in'79 due to the restrictions placed on their deployment by the US (this was the reason given by the CO), so they changed their MO , instead of dive bombing the fleet they circled it at 50' off the deck then "attacked" and photographed the entire fleet which classified as a hit back in the old days, hence my target remark.

    Legend has it (from an ex-RAN submariner I joined the RAAF with ) that an Aussie submarine surfaced in Pearl Harbour without being detected ..... true or false ?

    Suppose to be impossible from what the USN guys told me

    BTW the RAN are a pack of killjoys , the RAAF would be in Hawaii for over a week before the RAN turned up and we had a great time at clubs and pubs until the RAN arrived, then the bouncers threw us out because they recognised the accent that had been causing all of the trouble
     
  12. Arvin Grajau

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    [QUOTE="moretti, post: 149053670, member: 659"

    Legend has it (from an ex-RAN submariner I joined the RAAF with ) that an Aussie submarine surfaced in Pearl Harbour without being detected ..... true or false ?

    Suppose to be impossible from what the USN guys told me

    /QUOTE] So Naive!

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    Did they get an Hawaiian Pack?
     
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    Just stumbled across a random vial video on TikTok (Yes I have signed up to monitor my kids)... @moretti you are famous. Love the reply!
     

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  15. moretti

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    That was a week ago, should have said $50k :)
     
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  16. DMWC

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    It probably wouldn’t surprise you to learn that the submariners have worked out how to eliminate cooling water noise since you operated with them in the 70s

    There are two types of ships - submarines and targets. Hence I think that a nuclear submarine would be a relatively safe place to be if hostilities broke out


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  17. moretti

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    Thanks, but I remember strapping the F-111 pilots in for their sorties against navy FFGs and them saying "if this was for real, you could take your first flight" :)

    This was in the 80s when washing planes was safe
     
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    Ahhh so that’s the real reason for them- safe spaces for VIPs! Is it true that all submariners volunteer for that duty; no one is just posted to it?
     
  19. moretti

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    Submariners are a strange lot, and mentally tough, from what I've seen.

    To be a submariner requires a LOT of psych exams and even when they pass them some still freak out when they got to sea (from the sub guy I joined the RAAF with told me plus a few US navy guys in Hawaii recollections)

    The RAN were finding it hard to fill the crew numbers back in the 80s and some guys were being sent to sea straight after they got back to port which made for a low morale , probably very different now but would suspect it still very hard to find people with the right mental attitude for a life under the waves, I know I wouldn't like to do it
     
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    Actually the reason I asked the question was because I’ve ‘heard’ it IS a major problem getting submariners and was hoping someone in the know could clarify...
     
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    I have a mate who was a submariner in the 70's and early 80's - he said getting used to the confined space wasn't that hard but the real mental test was the first time they went very deep with all the creaking and groaning from the hull and water pissing in everywhere.
     
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    I had a relative's husband who was in the Royal Navy during the Second World war in the Submarine core, be a tough position.
     
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    At about the same time my next door neighbour was a submariner. His girlfriend must have been in the USO - every time he was at sea if there were US Navy in town she was always 'entertaining' the sailors...
     
  24. FazzerPorscheman

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    Into Seamen then?

    Somebody had to say it.
     
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  25. moretti

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    Hah, par for the course, same deal with a lot of raaf personnel that were flying away for over half the year ...... most blokes in my squadron were on their second marriage or 3rd gf .... standard joke as you flew away on exercise "I'll mow your lawn for you mate"

    Most of the married guys had a "50 mile switch" in them, 50 miles from take-off the wedding rings came off (I never wore one because of sticking my hands in places where 415V circulated)

    One trip to Hawaii (for RIMPAC) some US military woman on R&R went through the entire SQN bar me (I should have caved but I stupidly saw marriage as a trust thing) ....... the hypocracy of the married guys when they got back was pathetic, kissing the missus and kids saying how much they missed them
     

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