Hamilton deserves more respect

What happened to "We win as a team, we lose as a team."

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I would assume the entire design team are pretty choked about this muppet's comments. It's a shame that nobody has the sack to ask Hamilton directly about this during the GP weekends. The arrogance and ungratefulness of Hamilton is so off the charts when it comes to this.

Imagine the team coming up with a design that shows significant gains over the traditional sidepod design in the CFD, Wind Tunnel, and Simulators and then have your driver publicly say "I told you the design sucks". Maybe the design is awesome, just their drivers aren't good enough to adapt to it. Afterall, Hamilton was spoiled with having the best car for 8 straight years, and even though the 2022 car is new, it would have still be designed around Hamilton's driving style and yet the new guy on the team still beat him. I doubt this is entirely true, but it would be pretty bad if the team came out and blamed it on Hamilton, no?

What really does he think he's so right about? "Oh man guys, this car is slower than the Red Bulls. You need to copy them"? What if Mercedes built a car identical to the Red Bull and it was still slower? Would he say the team should have listened to their data and gone with a zero sidepod design?

Lets not ignore that last year he blamed getting beat by Russell was because he did the development work on the car. Sorry, but that is such a lame excuse. Both drivers test the parts that come down the pipeline from the design team. All that really suggests is that he made specific requests to have the car designed to his preference, and it still didn't work.

In this past race, he made another jab. He said he should have used George's setup, and when asked why he didn't, he said that George's setup's are usually wrong.

Dude get over yourself.

 

Also, "My team doesn't make mistakes" Lewis Hamilton

Sorry, the mere existence of this HAM deserves more respect just always gets me fired up!

 

+100

The jab at george especially...so what he's saying is that George beat him last year, despite being on the wrong set up more often than not? Incredible if true.

I've said it before but his jabs at the team regarding going wrong in the design really is painful. It's his usual finger pointing game, the same games he always plays...public perception is everything to him and he absolutely mastered it. Look at forums, social media etc...any post made regarding Mercedes his delusional fans are there attacking the team, team members etc saying they're all idiots that should've listened to him during the car design phase...and that Mercedes are conspiring against Lewis because they don't want him to topple Michael for some reason (no logic to this argument whatsoever but that's firmly implanted in their heads now). All it took for him to open his dumb mouth and destroy the team that helped him to 6 titles, 7 constructor titles and made him a global superstar. All that work undone in minutes. He's always been a **** character and now that he's losing again he hasn't changed at all.

Compare that to Michael when he had his bad years with Ferrari, or when he came back to Mercedes...the amount of reliability issues he's had when he was in good positions was quite a bit and did he ever bad mouth the team? No.

Lewis saying the design team should've listened to him is akin to Leclerc jumping up and down to the media saying ''well, the team didn't listen to me...I told them we needed more go faster bits and more reliability..."

And of course, after Silverstone testing Lewis was saying how good the car felt to him.

I'd appreciate him a whole lot more if he was even slightly consistent. But that's not it with him. He's out there for Team Lewis and team Lewis only.

 

and he can get away with it too.

 

yup...I mean it wouldn't irritate me as much if he was team lewis and team lewis only, if he wasn't so damn inconsistent. He praises the team when it suits him, but find themselves under the bus when it goes wrong.

 

Spot on.

I took a peak at the Mercedes F1 team Instagram account once. The comments were littered with speech that was pretty much incomprehensible, despite still being English. No grounds of reality whats so ever. It would be comparable to seeing a group of flat earthers.

A little trip down memory lane, but one of my favorite comments from Schumacher was during 2005. If we remember, the Michelin tires were immensely better than the Bridgestone's. A reporter asked Michael something the along the lines of "would Ferrari be a winning car if it didn't have Bridgestone tires?" and Michael's quick response was "the car wouldn't be very good without tires". It was no secret the Bridgestone tires were crap that year, but Michael wasn't going to throw them under the bus in any way. Bridgestone was just the tire supplier to Ferrari, they weren't officially part of the team. But it was still a partnership, and Bridgestone were doing the best they could for Ferrari.

 

He does his scripted "great work guys, everyone at the factory did an amazing job" on the radio, but is quick to point the finger at them when he simply isn't winning by 30 seconds. And his fans and the media eat it up. Is it really that hard to see?

 

100%

Michael was the definition of a team player.

"wow guys, so happy to be here...really this is the greatest track with the best fans!"

[repeat next week for insert country]

 

I have seen certain threads really pitying Hamilton and saying it's not his fault the car is bad, and that he should retire rather than trying to finish 4 - 6th in a race....really amazing to think how this guy even manage to get so much WDC.

Looking at his comments and interviews, he just can't seem to handle the pressure that he's no more having the fastest car. Really makes me appreciate Michael much more. I can't imagine what Michael saw when he went to Ferrari initially, and how he rallied everyone together. The near misses was so painful but he fought it out.

Now compare this to the diva. Seriously, IMHO, it's always been about the car. He's getting schooled now with a teammate who is finally good, and not a slow coach like bottas.

 

At first I thought you all were just your average haters. But this too much. Some of you all really give Hamilton %100 your time and energy. This is funny lol. The actions from Hamilton you all are describing is no news, Who cares? I mean I read Hamilton's comments. I'm like really? What has got you all so worked up? Every driver shows it when the team is not good. Alonso complained with Honda, Leclerc, Perez, Vettel, Riccardo, Max, all drivers have complained. I never seen a driver happy that his car is slower than the previous year. Lando punched the wall the other day. I know this is not your first time watching motorsports, so I'm confused of how you get so excited when a driver and team is in a bad place, this has occurred a thousand times. Again, maybe its me, maybe there has been drivers who are happy their car is slower. Send me some proof if this is something I overlooked.

 

a phoney

 

Show me another driver that has taken so much credit for their team building a car. Or in this case, suggest the car isn't good because they didn't listen to him. I don't care who you are, no driver is that influential on making a car what it is. Lewis, Michael, Leclerc, Max.... they can all ask for something on the car to be better. More front downforce, less pitch sensitivity, less drag, etc. But it's up to the design team and builders to actually make it happen. Never have I seen a driver make such arrogant comments in regards to the car being physically capable of being good or bad. Lewis is literally saying if Mercedes would have listened to him, the car would be faster, because he is right.

 

I, too, am one of those guys who likes being right. And I've been 100% right in this thread since day 1.

Seethe.

 

Show me another driver who publicly thanks his team more than Hamilton. This is why I say you argument is useless man. You focus on 20% rather than %80. Do you have proof that what Hamilton suggested was not better? Maybe you get excited easily. But this is no news to me man.

 

I've been %100 right too.

 

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Way to side step. I can't think of any driver who was winning didn't praise the team. Actually most all the drivers praise their team, even when Mercedes was winning every race. But I didn't hear any of them pointing a finger at their team when they weren't winning.

It's only a non issue to you because it makes Hamilton look bad. As it's been mentioned already. He thanks the team to make himself look good, he also trashes the team to make himself look good. Notice the pattern?

 

It's the constant banging on the drums for me about how great they are, how they have a no blame culture...all the easy to say tick boxes when things are going (exceptionally) well. Preaching to make themselves look good. All that was out of the window already last year, and continues this day.

Mercedes wind tunnel troubles: No new chassis until 2024 (formu1a.uno)

"We have a strict, no blame culture but instead work the problem. That said, pack your ****, you're fired".

 

Dude. The whole thing is not significant. I swear you are more concerned about this more than Toto. You are putting more energy into this than the team. I don't think he blame his team enough. I think he thanks them too much. I think he should blame his team more, maybe privately. Max curse out his team regularly. So now now you claim he thanks the team to make himself look good. So you have an excuse in place if he thanks his team anyway. It doesn't matter what he do. You already preprogrammed to discredit it anyway. But if no other driver is providing you entertainment, then continue on.

 

Did LH explain this to you personally. This is now a fact?? He has 30mil followers on social media. How did you manage a personal appointment to sort this.

He LH, is losing and Max is winning. No one is happy but LH for sure owns rent free many. Hilarious this all is.

Max said RedBull needed to do better after Saudi. OMG world ends no? He dared to say such a thing and to many here LH has no right to state his feelings relative to the team. Revisit Max in Brazil and his stern lecture to the team. Talk about TEAM LOVE! Blunt non team words alluding to I own this team, you do what I want or else. Capice??? LOL!

The response from Checo in Brazil was the utter truth -- He shows who he really is. Toxic, classless, little Sad Saudi Max. Thats the real news. Certainly not losing in F1, not a threat LH.

Please keep this thread alive! Its amazing in its utter proof of how humanity really is. Not happy lol. Not ever pleased. Just complaining. Who has a dead horse picture to post! Its needed here

 

Wait. His view is no other driver blame the team. No driver is history blame the team. Hamilton is the first driver to do it. It is unheard of. You have it wrong about Max. He never said anything bad towards anybody. I haven't even seen him frustrated. He has the upmost respectfull radio messages towards his team. No other driver is frustrated about their team. Now I'm hearing that it wasn't the real Lando that punched the wall, they brought in a stunt person.

 

No "average haters" in this thread...
These guys are 100% INVESTED in their hate...

 

With Hamilton and his fans, there's always an excuse. There's always somebody else to blame.

Hamilton plays the "victim" role to perfection.