Hamilton deserves more respect

That is a fine steed of speed LOL!! Post of the entire thread. I do appreciate this dead horse LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

 

Its being proven by Russell that Hamilton's championships are a result of dominant cars and not his 'top tier' talent. He has never won a thing with an average car, as most don't in this era, if not all. His championships are a result of the same thing that brought Vettel his domination and Verstappen.

None of these drivers are genuinely 'legendary' nor are they outperforming their cars. With a flawed car we see the real Hamilton laid bare, outperformed by his teammate for two seasons running now and left complaining and firing those around him. The only thing he shares in common with a GOAT is that he makes a great deal of unnecessary noise.

 

LOL! LOL! what? LOL! LOL! gibberish

Please don't drink and post.

 

That's the nature of F1 these days. The car is 80% of the success, and the driver's share of the result less and less.

It's more a constructors championship than a drivers championship, where technology makes the difference more than driving skill.

Yet, ironically the winning driver gets rewarded more and more, and gets paid astronomical sums of money !!

 

Hammy's schtick is worn out. In my opinion that's why a lot of people don't like him. So playing the "hater" card is just lame. It's like you're a teenage punk on a chat board for the first time and that's all you can come up with.

By the way I'm not a big fan of Piquet. He used to slag Mansell's wife to the press. Very, very poor taste. He seems to enjoy mouthing off. But this fine is just way over the top.

Have a nice day.

 

Good point there.
True, Max is likely the best currently but, if he drives for Aston Martin or Ferrari he doesn’t beat stroll in the Red Bull . Same applies for when the Mercedes dominated


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Depends on the nature of the weather i.e. rain.

Max didn't have the fastest car in 2016, in fact it was the 3rd fastest car......but that run at Interlagos on a wet track was simply amazing.....he had 2 self-inflicted incidents with the car and of those 2, he spun the car sideways and recovered. That's a higher level of race-craft given the situation. No one else on that track on that day rose above it....except Max in the 3rd best car.

 

As Martin Brundle put it so often in 2015-2021 "thank goodness for Max Verstappen". He was the only one that made races even remotely entertaining.

 

You must be talking about the 20% share that can be attributed to the driver, mostly in particular circumstances.

 

In motorsports, it always heavily depends on the car. In F1 it makes even more of a difference because there can be seconds a lap between two manufacturers.

I personally think the drivers deserve to make the huge bucks. When you are say one of the top 5 F1 drivers in the entire world, let alone the very best. That literally means there is nobody else on the planet as good.

The driver's championship is also more difficult to win, and it has a much bigger following than the constructors. I think it is ultra impressive when a driver wins the WDC, yet their team did not win the WCC.

 

Do you think that if the FIA awarded him an 8th WDC based on his world achievement, that he'd accept it and retire? I'm just tired of looking at him and his pig tail hair style. And it would certainly start an interesting session of musical chairs. Leclerc to Mercedes, Lando to Ferrari, etc.

 

I would challenge that ! The 2 championships are run concurrently anyway.

This is a forum where the majority of people expect Ferrari to win, regardless of the driver, for example.

It can happend that a driver wins the WDC and his team fails to get the WCC, if the second driver doesn't score enough.

 

I suggest you watch some old F3000 races then redraft the above drivel.

 

It maybe that the true judge of skill is in a series where all the drivers have the same car.
That way, there is no excuse about the car not performing, being slower, etc .. since only the driver can make a difference.
This is why I don't disregard F2, or Indy car to reveal new talents.

 

On any forum I browse, or on any social media platform, the Driver is more of a focal point than the team. We may want Ferrari to win, but the topic is more about Leclerc's chances for the Driver's title over the constructors title. Or Max, or Lewis, or whomever. I like that you recognize the WCC more than most.

Sounds like something Will Buxton would say lol.

 

Says the Octogenarian . . .

 

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2 drivers at the same team, one with a history of lying, one does not. Who do I believe here...?

 

Says the ageist...

 

As far as driver's salaries, I suppose they are worth it, the team wants the best performer. However, since the teams earn money from their place in the Constructors, they also want good drivers for that reason too. I don't know the inside story, but for a lower tier team there is probably some chart that they can use to compute if say Latifi brings $10,000,000 to the team but costs them X number of places and dollars/Euros/Pounds then he's not worth it. First world rich business problem level stuff!

 

I need to watch how he struggled to have an impact in the Manor in his first year before switching to a winning team and a far better set up the following season and winning? ASM won prior to having him and after because of their car. Who would have thought?

It proves my point wonderfully. No redraft necessary.

 

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It happened nine times in the last 65 years (in yellow in my list below)...

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2021 Max

 

You are absolutely right. Thank you. See below - it happened 10 times in 65 seasons...

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Nico already proved this. Russell is just icing on the cake.

Some of us have been saying all of this for literally years. It's kind of fun now to sit back and watch Sir Lewis prove us right race after race and interview after interview, while the fanboys fight reality as long as they can then slowly start to accept what has been glaringly obvious to everyone else for quite a long time.