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'62 Maserati 5000GT

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  1. staatsof

    staatsof Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    It's the same thing that happens in the real estate world.
    So what's the reason? Too expensive? Issues with the car?
     
  2. wbaeumer

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    Its simply the question of potential buyers WHY this car has not been sold already??? Whatever the reason(s) is/are...!
     
  3. wbaeumer

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    Probably because its a Maserati....and not a Ferrari (where people by almost all s**t!).
     
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  4. Ferraripilot

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    I really think that's just what the Indy 5000gt needs. BaT often brings cars into light often that spectators and sometimes even buyers have little to no clue even exist. So many Maserati's are or almost under the radar for that reason. This particular car would absolutely be no exception to that crowd. Just an incredibly unique example of an already unique model for the marque.

    Any idea if during the restoration this engine was fitted with the block stiffening rig?
     
  5. staatsof

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    Does that really matter? No one is going to drive this car hard all that much. For gawd sake don't raise the issue on BaT as it will scare off potential buyers. Maseratis have enough of a problem selling as it is. I would suggest they discuss any questions with a qualified expert offline.
     
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  7. wbaeumer

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    ...and what is the asking price?

    And "under offer" does NOT mean that its sold as you wrote "gone"....
     
  8. Nembo1777

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    CvD in Bavaria has owned both and tried to sell them for years, I represented the dark red one a few years ago but no takers at the desired price.
     
  9. wbaeumer

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    CvD still owns both cars.....
     
  10. Nembo1777

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    Yes that is what I am saying:)
     
  11. nico5000GT

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    The last price for both cars is 1.5 million EURO. I have been in contact with Kidston regarding the history and pictures, which are currently in the files. Both engines have been rebuilt. I have driven both cars, and they are fantastic. I prefer the blue one AM103*060*.

    Best regards
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    - Maserati 5000 GT Research -
     
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  12. wbaeumer

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    For each (!) of both cars or 1.5m Euro for both?
     
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    Each!

    Very fair for what these magnificent machines are really.
     
  14. staatsof

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    I had the exact same question. I'm surprise by the response because of the way it was originally worded. Precision is required.
     
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  15. wbaeumer

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    Correct. But the market thinks differently....
     
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    Walter, why is the market so negative about an extremely rate and unique Maserati? If these were Ferraris, they would be sold long ago.
     
  17. italiancars

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    You just answered your own question
     
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    They may be rare, but there are other Maserati's and Ferrari's in that price range are better looking.
     
  19. wbaeumer

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    Elliot,
    good question. My explanation is: Ferrari has in every decade super GT- and/or racing cars and therefore a continuous history in their products. Furthermore the beauty-aspect was always very important while Maserati had there same flaws...
    And (sorry, Biturbo-lovers), while Ferrari made same great cars like 288GTO, F40 etc (which costs Millions of $s today), Maserati made...the Biturbo which you can buy for 10-(I am polite now) 35k$.
    Look to the Ghibli: the car was georgeous and attracted many customers, some of them celebreties. The successor, the Khamsin, was a stunning car - but the esteemed elite could not handle the Maserati-Citroen-Green-Soup-affair. Then: when Ferrari came out with their great 275GTB with intependent suspension, Maserati still had the swing-axle in the Ghibli. Then came the Miura and Countach from Lamborghini, both cars became true benchmarks in the automotive history. Ferrari reacted with the 365BB/512BB and 512BBi and could keep up with Lamborghini while Maserati has a very nice Bora. Great car (and still with some of the Green-Soup in it), yes, but breathtaking ...? Clearly no.
    Then Ferrari had the Testarossa, TR and F512M and the F50-supercar. What had Maserati in that period? The excentric Shamal (I personally like that car!) the QPIV and Ghibli II. Again nothing what was really stunning!
    Then their glorious V12 against the V8 which is in the US a very common powerplant (OK, its much simpler than the 4-cam from Italy)....
    And also the constant promotion of Ferrari due to their F1-engagement. Maserati had nuttin`like that!
    Maserati was always too conservative and when they were "Avangarde" then in the wrong way.

    The people want toys to play with. Look at Ferrari - their 4-seater cars (which are great drivers!!) do not have the value of their toy-cars! Why is a suit from BOSS or Zegna more expensive than the normal but -often- more practical suite from someone else?

    These 5000GT Frua are very impressive (and thats the reason why they are still more expensive that the Ghibli/Mexico etc.)...but are they beautiful??

    -And now ready to get the sh*tstorm from you all-
     
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    I agree 100%.

    While I am a Ferrari guy I love Maseratis of this period. Everyone knows the name Ferrari and some, part of the history. In this day and age most recollections of Maserati is the Biturbo. Unless you are an amateur automotive historian you are unlikely even going to know these cars exist. Might as well be a vintage Lancia, another great, largely unknown make.


    Saying "If it was a Ferrari" is a little like saying "Its a great house its just in the wrong neighborhood".
     
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    You are correct speaking from a USA standpoint, don't forget this is a global forum.
     
  22. staatsof

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    The 365BB/512BB and 512BBi are breathtaking compared with the Bora or Khamsin? Sorry I think not.
    Also, I don't think we should be comparing the Maserati cars from 1980's and 1990's Detomaso era to the cars from Maranello at that time. The price differential was enormous. That's not very fair as Maserati was "trying", often very trying, to build a much farther down market cars than Ferrari or even the very struggling Lamborghini before Audi bought them. That was the Italian government's orders so as to increase jobs.

    For the most part Maserati still is trying to do the same thing and they still struggle at it. All of their cars are Biturbos now. ;) But the cars are of immensely higher quality now than those they or Ferrari made in the 1980's. All cars, especially the Italian cars have undergone a vast improvement in quality and reliability.

     
  23. wbaeumer

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    I did not mention the biturbo engine - I meant the car in total. Yes, today many exotic engines comes with biturbo design. And so what...?
    Look of the very boxy-design of the Biturno and most people recognise the 512s and later the Testarossa as the much more attractive car.
    But we did not talk about yoir or my taste here - we talk about why the Maserati are struggeling to keep their value in these days (and also compared to Ferrari).Thats all...
     
  24. staatsof

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    Can't agree that's just Ferrari bias speaking.
     
  25. wbaeumer

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    If you really think that a Biturbo looks more beautiful than a Ferrari Testarossa, then you also believe that Frankenstein won a beauty contest...
     

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