296 VS

Confirmed in the 296 Challenge section that this is the new Challenge car being tested at Monza.

 

And it is NOT a hybrid.

 

if the 296 Challenge would be without Hybrid - i guess the 296 VS will come also without.
would be mega! (also for the Pista and F8 prices ^^ )

just not so cool for those countries - where we pay (without hybrid) +50% CO2-tax on the listprice
compared with +10% CO2-tax on the listprice with hybrid - as on the 296 GTB/GTS for eample here in Austria.

 

my 296 GTS (+10% CO2-tax) costs the same as my 992 GT3 RS (+41% CO2-tax)

 

I can't imagine that the VS would have less power than the regular version, but maybe that's just me

think it's the other way around, if 296 VS is non hybrid, it would rather bring Pista and F8 prices down, as they wouldn't be the last non hybrid cars (same logic with the 458 last N/A)

 

I think it is most likely that VS will be hybrid but am hoping against hope that it is not.The fact that the Challenge car is unassisted by electric is encouraging.
The weight saving plus a bit for power from the V6 could make it quicker than the standard car and even more "fun to drive".
As I said previously I think the car will be revealed in 2025.

 

Is that a fact?

Unlikely, It would just be a Pista reprise.

 

V6 biturbo.
I am hoping VS will be a Challenge Stradale (ie use same engine)

 

Problem with bi turbo v6 is turbo lack.
I hope they keep hybrid.
For race cars, they rev all the way up all the time so lag is no problem.

Make smaller battery pack is the way to go.


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Yes, it is. Look at the 296GT3

 

The GT3 and the Challenge are two different things though. The GT3 had to be non-hybrid, as per the regulations. That's why I asked specifically about the Challenge.

 

not if its still a V6

 

That's what everyone involved with the Challenge series confirm as well. No hybrid for Challenge.

 

VS sans battery pack would also weigh a few hundred pounds less.

 

F40 vibes anyone?
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Any clues as to what this is ?
Has the yellow stickers so clearly electric involved in some way.
I'm feeling a bit of Stratos vibe which is cool.

 

Did the 296 GTS Esperienza in Italy last week.
None of the Ferrari guys dismissed the notion that the 296 VS might appear as a non hybrid but I'm sure none of those I spoke to know definitively (assuming a decision has been made).
I still think it is a possibility albeit unlikely.
This was my second session in a 296 on track and road.The power delivery is incredibly smooth as a result of the electric motor but obviously it moves the experience closer to full electric which is why I hope the VS will be non hybrid and a much more "raw" experience.

 

Unless the "VS" is made in VERY small numbers it is very unlikely it will be non hybrid as it will bump up Ferrari's metrics for "polluting" cars and bring them closer to paying higher EU tariffs.

I find this quite sad as I was advocating the 296 to be supplied with and without hybrid to deliver two completely different experiences, a lighter weight go-kart for the non hybrid and again on steroids (more power more weight). Almost like the old days or with/without turbo!!!

 

Where are people getting the idea that there will be a non-hybrid 296 Road car? (or as we used to say a ‘pure NA car’ )

I believe the confusion started when the 296 GT3 was announced and initially shown. It's not even the same car as the 296 Road car. It's really a new car. The engine is lower and more forward. The wheelbase was lengthened to the maximum allowed under the rules. Otherwise it could not have been technically homologated. Same will be true with a 296 Challenge. No one can run consistent race laps yet and not soon in an electric car. (not including Formula E here). That will be the problem with electric car racing. There will be a lap time variance in the short run.

 

Even though it would be absolutely thrilling to be offered the opportunity on a non electrified (V8?) 296VS, I just have my severe doubts this could happen.
Unless the architecture of the chassis of the 296 is not designed to house a hybrid drivetrain only, which would be quite astonishing, I don’t see a technically feasible solution to go such a way.

 

NA is totally beyond any imagination. Where should the power come from?
V8 Turbo would be the only possibility to reach the power demand. Existing V6turbo would also fail.

 

The 296 has been built around the V6, hence the shorter wheelbase. Thus, a V8 is out of the question. So is a non hybridised version, as it would fall well short in the power stakes. Maserati will happily sell you a 600+ HP, non-hybrid, mid-engine, V6 car, if that's your cup of tea,

 

V8? I thank god every day that that vacuum machine of a V8 is gone.

 

It would be weird, but if we are just fantasizing then imagine the SF90s V8. Sure the V6 is not as long, but it also adds the electric motor and other bits, you would not have those.

I just don’t see how any possible special version 296 does not use some version of the 296 V6turbo hybrid system already in place. Maybe they can find a way to reduce the weight of the battery / use a smaller and lighter electric motor….


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Day355 mentioned it in the F8 vs 296 Corsa Pilota threat. Ferrari took notice of the STO and is brewing up something non-hybrid and very sporty. No guarantee it actually exists or that this is the car, but he tends to be right more than he’s wrong.