Worthy of being considered one of the best season performances of all time. To be fair, a 3rd place car can be hard pressed to just win a race or two, let alone a championship. So that was a pretty safe statement. There are plenty of occasions where a driver has won championships in the 2nd best car, which typically gets attributed to the drivers.
This (below) is the most nonsensical thing i've read in this thread for a while ... and that's saying something! Anytime anyone says anything negative about Lewis, the fans attack the poster. See the difference? If you didn't say anything "positive" about Lewis ... then Bas is NOT doing what you're accusing him of doing. Right? Maybe he's responding to something else altogether (which he is entirely allowed to do). hmmm ... maybe Bas has something more to offer, than the personal attacks often posted by the fanboys. Data analysis, historical perspective, comparisons to other drivers ... not everything posted is an attack against Hamilton. Are you really that insecure and desperate, to suggest that a non-fan should leave the thread ... when he's not breaking any rules? Maybe other posters are happy with his posts. Ever consider that? Paying a rule-abiding member to leave the thread? Because you can't name a rule broken, and you can't help but read his posts? Why not put him on ignore, if he upsets you so much? Why don't YOU leave the thread instead? WAIT ... i guess my earlier question has been answered
Post #248 says LH is "probably the GOAT" I know my English comprehension is not great but "probably" is not the same as "is"...right?
Not true. Right, but that's more because you're entire post is an attack on me. Sitting on the fence I see. No issues with that. I was a Vettel fan, also a Max fan and have supported plenty of other drivers over the years. I agree, but what do you really expect when someone comes here and exclusively talks up the competition? Say I go to the F8 section and talk about how much greater then Mclaren is, and my sole goal seemingly is getting people to admit to it?
No, you've already been banned for it, but since you're playing coy: The reason you got banned is you were insinuating anyone that disliked Lewis is a racist, that was your only logical explanation. Not just the once, either. When prompted for facts in more than a timely manner, the mods banned you. Don't sit here and cry about it, saying I get people banned for not agreeing with them. You got banned for calling people racist.
Well, not trying to split hair in four here, but if we consider the cars only performance-wise, not reliability...it might surprise some here, but I would say that Emerson Fittipaldi's McLaren M23 in 1974 might have been a third-place car: the Ferrari 312B3 was "better" overall & the Brabham BT44 was quicker (but not constantly); it is Emerson himself that made the difference by capitalising on every occasion. Niki Lauda did that in 1977 too: the Lotus 78 was faster, the Wolf WR1 was also a regular performer and probably a "better" car than the Ferrari 312T2, which had a lot of road-holding problems, but Niki managed to clinch the title nevertheless. We could argue about 1979, too: the Ligier JS11 was faster at the beginning of the season, the Williams FW07 was in a class of its own at the end, but Scheckter won the title in the 312T4; agreed, the Ligier was faster only at the beginning of the season and the Williams only at the end, whereas the Ferrari was in fact second-best for the whole of the season: two cars were indeed faster, but not at the same time. A case could also be argued for Alain Prost in 1986: the Williams was obviously faster and the better car, and the Lotus-Renault also faster, but perhaps not a "better" car overall than the McLaren, but faster. Rgds
Prost with the Mclaren in 1986 was a good example. Perhaps not the 3er car but pretty equivalent to the Lotus Renault.
I’m with Bas. Anytime the littlest post is anti lulu the usual suspects fly in to protect him. Amazing how offended people have become.
Like every little comment Lewis say on the radio or about his team, the usual suspects fly in to condemn him? Amazing how offended haters have become.
Usual suspects ? I think not. Some people have a degree of fairness that others cannot understand. More than defending Hamilton, it's fairness in general that some are advocating. What's wrong in calling for some moderation ? One is allowed to have a negative opinion of a driver without constantly bashing him day after day as a therapy. Critics can make their point, and then move on, without revisiting the same topic all the time, like it has been done constantly for the last 10 years. We know those who like Hamilton, there is no need for them to be counted at every occasion.
I am sure I have not read every single post in this thread, but I can't say I have ever seen a post by someone simply bashing Lewis for no reason. When an "anti-lulu" post shows up, it is always stemmed from actions or words from Lewis. It's never "so I was taking a dump today, and thought Lewis is a jerk". I do however see if Lewis causes a wreck, whines on the radio, isn't a team player, or wears a purple octopus for clothing, we likely see a post about that here. That does seem relevant in a Lewis Hamilton thread. This might typically be posted by the "usual suspects", but the same "usual suspects" come to Lewis' defense. What I rarely, if ever see, is new posts about Lewis doing good things. He supposedly does amazing things for humanity, but we don't see any topics about that here. He supposedly is one of the greatest drivers, but other than throwing the same statistics around during a defensive post, it doesn't get brought up here. I might be a bit off here, but I can remember most of the "usual suspects" on the Anti-LH side that openly give credit and praise to Lewis when and where it is due. I however do not recall the "usual suspects" of the Pro-LH side admitting or condemning Lewis when he has done something wrong, or the facts paint a less than favorable picture of Hamilton. Talk about "make a point and move on", we will never stop hearing about 2021 from the Lewis fanbase, which starts that argument all over again.
That's why I wish Hamilton could retire. That wouldn't come too soon. Then maybe constant comments about him will stop on this forum, although I wouldn't hold my breath ! There is more to talk about in F1 than focus negatively about one individual.
Don't hold your breath. He hadn't won a race recently, and he is still the number one topic here. Other drivers are just too boring.
I doubt it. The Schumacher and Senna conversations are still going strong, no way the Hamilton conversations will stop when he retires. Sadly it probably gets worse. You can see all the new F1 fans that can't think for themselves or see past whats on their phones for 1 or 2 seconds, these people will be the rulers of opinions when they never even watched most of Hamilton's career.
I don't expect Hamilton to disappear completely from conversations. You can't erase a 7-time WDC from F1 history. But there will probably be less to discuss on a daily basis. I am looking for a more peaceful atmosphere among fans. Is that too much to ask ?
william, in all sincerity ... there's at least another dozen active threads discussing F1 on Fchat. This is NOT the only one! But if you can't resist the temptation to stay out of this thread (among a dozen others), then why not put those you find offensive on "ignore"? Works for me ... i've used the "ignore" feature on more than one fanboy, who can't have adult debates but rather resort to personal attacks at every chance.
Well, I for one, am bailing out of this thread and I suggest that the other NON LH dislikers do the same. You boys carry on... I heard there's a video of LH kicking a dog.
