Massa to file legal action on 2008 title?

The system was automated. It is supposed to automatically go green when the fuel hose is removed. However, Ferrari say the system had been switch to manual mode.

So you are both right. It is an automated system, but it was human error to put it in manual mode.

 

t was manualy operated, thta's why the mechanic responsible for the switch wa scrying, because he knew his mistake had screwd Felipe, later , when he returned to his pit, Massa went straight to confort him......just like a certain driver we all know would do, lololo

 

"Ferrari's light system usually works automatically when the fuel hose is removed from the car, but in Singapore it was in manual mode." - Reuters

"It is understood that Ferrari's light system had been switched to manual mode during the safety car period in Singapore" - Autosport

"Ferrari will abandon the controversial 'traffic lights' automated pit-stop procedure that cost F1 World Championship contender Felipa Massa" - Crash.net

"However, with cars swarming into the pit lane while the safety car was deployed, Ferrari switched their light system to manual operation" - Eurosport

 

He doesn't want to understand.
You could put all the proofs under their nose, some people still want to believe that Massa should have been WDC.

 

Its a rule some where apparently, some where in the FIA statutes is this rule, this rule that only Bernie has seen, no team, not even the FIA knew it was in the STATUTES they made.

Apparently, if a team / driver breaks a regulation it invalidates a race, since 1946 we have yet to see this rule, and the only person who knows about it is Bernie lol.

 

Imagine how many races should have been "invalidated" since the championship was started ! Lol

 

FIA statutes from 2001 - 2010 says - article 28 / e " the World Motor Sport Council may directly impose the sanctions provided for in the
International Sporting Code"

International sporting code chapter Xl " 153. Scale of penalties
Penalties may be inflicted as follows in order of increasing
severity :
− reprimand (blame);
− fines;
− time penalty;
− exclusion;
− suspension;
− disqualification. "

In no FIA approved text is any text concerning races being invalidate.

 

Imagine what the sponsors, promoters and organisers would say if races that cost $Millions to set up could be simply invalidated because a driver or a team was found flouting the rules !!!

 

alot lol

I know, they wouldnt be happy bunnys

 

Dude, you really wan't to play dead? Keep going....

 

Thanks for proving what i just said.....in that race, it was operated manualy!......but i think William still has some doubts.

 

Go to minute 1:45.....Don't bother William, I'm sure Massa is wrong and it was automatic....

 

Does it matter, No body cares about the pit stop remember?.!!!

 

Everyone here (Ferrari fans) care, except for merc trolls....of course it's hard to teach something to a troll....

 

Automatic or manual, the pit stop cock-up that eliminated Massa was Ferrari's fault ! Don't look for excuses !

So, if we are to believe Massa, Jean Todt knew that Piquet crashed "on purpose", and he didn't do anything about it?
That's a damning statement to make ! Todt was "certain" it was done on purpose, and as Ferrari principal didn't bother to lodge an appeal against Alonso's win ? It's hard to believe that Todt wouldn't have tried to defend the interests of his team, if he knew and was certain. Toto Wolff would have jumped to the race director in a similar case !!!

I am enclined to believe that people like Ecclestone, and Massa tend to embellish what happened, and make mileage out of it.
Well, it's a good yarn to tell many years later to get your name in the headlines, and when most people have forgotten about it.
Maybe we could have a statement from Jean Todt, to have his opinion before he becomes geriatric.
Maybe he could explain why he didn't contest the result then.
Maybe he has forgotten too ...

 

I hate to say it, but there are a lot of Ferrari fans acting the same way the Lewis fans did about Abu Dhabi 2021

Claiming Massa is the deserving champion. Making claims about rules that don't exist. Demanding legal action to change a result. Discrediting Hamilton. Calling for asterisks.

 

It's not a claim, Massa is the 2008 legitimate world champion, cheating doesn't alter the truth.

 

Geriatric indeed!

 

Lol

 

But hold on, this doesnt match what you said the page before.

LMFAO.......... Can you please make your mind up......

 

What's the statute for FIA deliberately sweeping things under the carpet?

 

Spot on. And now I understand why you hate Alonso. Not sure about Sainz, but anyway, let's hope Felipe is man enough to go for it.

 

I think he will, if there is any small chance of taking the case to court or some sort of place where his case might be validated. I don't think he believes he'll get the title back, but e want's to expose the whole affair and show the world he was robbed of a title he won on track.

 

Massa, the modern Don Quixote !!! Wanting to fight with no hope of winning.

 

That's about as delusional as it gets. Failed to score any points in Singapore by his and his own teams doing. 19 other drivers were affected during that race, including Hamilton, and yet he scored points while Massa did not. If Renault and Alonso got DQ'd from that race, still no points. If Renault and Alonso got banned for the rest of 2008, he still doesn't score enough points. So you want a rule/punishment that doesn't appear to exist to be enforced to completely erase a race from 15 years ago by way of the courts outside of Formula 1 and the FIA.

You actually have the audacity to say "robbed of a title won on track"?

I tell you what, I'll give you a change to prove your case. If you find irrefutable evidence of a rule that states cancellation of a race because of a single team cheating exists, then we can continue to talk about it. If not, then do not mention it because it does not exist. In which case, without the "cancel the GP" argument, tell me how Massa won the championship on track?