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  1. JagShergill

    JagShergill Formula 3

    Dec 31, 2014
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    4 minutes ?? You watched it twice ?!!! :)
     
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  2. U-Boat Commander

    U-Boat Commander Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed

    Jun 7, 2008
    1,303
    USA
    It takes a couple minutes to find something I haven't already watched.
     
  3. Condor Man

    Condor Man F1 Rookie
    Rossa Subscribed

    Sep 8, 2006
    4,938
    Los Angeles
    I was in Maranello last week and the 812 Replacement Mule drove right past me.

    My impressions are that this is in no way going to look or feel like a big Roma. The proportions look amazing and it feels like the natural successor to the 812.

    I noticed also where the rear window finished that there was some sort of gap and it looked as though there may even be some sort active aero happening. Nothing popped up when he was braking, however it was very noticeable that there was something going on there.

    On a side note, I also counted 20 x Purosangue's inside the gates and by far the best colors where the lighter and brighter colors. I was initially considering getting black, however this is a definite "no" as it simply hides all of the lines.
     
  4. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

    Jun 5, 2009
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    mathieu Jeantet
    Thanks
    Did you see a F250 mule either ?
     
  5. Condor Man

    Condor Man F1 Rookie
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    Sep 8, 2006
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    Unfortunately not.

    I did see a beautiful red SP3 with Blue and white stripe doing her maiden voyage though.
     
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  6. RamsHmb

    RamsHmb Formula 3
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    Jan 22, 2017
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    Interesting in the PS colors. I was thinking of a darker grey but now I am reconsidering. Out of all of them which color did you like the most?
     
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  7. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

    Jun 25, 2006
    2,573
    Don't expect anything from Ferrari today, unfortunately!
    For several reasons. The first being that when you ask if they have asked themselves the question of what a Ferrari should be, they do not know what to answer intelligently and sensibly, because they simply have not asked themselves the question at the time. beyond marketing rules learned in business school.
    The second being that the marketing department is made up of people who still play the playstation with an Apple watch on their wrist, so don't expect a particular interest in beauty and watchmaking...
    The third is because everything sells effortlessly thanks to the badge and even a van would generate 3 years of waiting, and they know it well.
    The fourth being that when a screen is developed, they recycle it until more thirsty to maximize profits.
    The fifth being that there are so many Apple people in all departments, that I suggest modifying the cavallino and putting a tricolor apple on his nostrils...
    The sixth is that the question of beauty and durability no longer interests them, because the majority of hybrid cars are disposable consumer products, and we will not restore a 296 like a 365/4...
    The seventh is that the notion of beauty is limited to liquid crystals and a car that turns in three D on the screen, like when you turn on a game console...
    The eighth is that arrogance has given way to thought !
    ..............
    And yet, nothing better than entering your garage early in the morning to join your friends on the mountain roads, starting the engine which gradually comes to stall on the idle, and counting pretty counters and needles which agitate in in front of you, in a subtle lettering and backlighting...

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  8. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

    Nov 26, 2003
    7,792
    Wire wheels, carburettors, manual gearboxes, traction control, hybrid engines... Now it´s the digital dashboard. Another "last nail" in Ferrari´s coffin, although it seems the mother****ers refuse to die.

    Personally I prefer the look of the needles, but let´s be honest: who is still using them? Cheap cars and a few "exotics" that deliberately are made to be "old fashioned". Digital screens are what most people want, and although I don´t like to admit it, they are better and more practical; that´s the reason they were first used in race cars.
     
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  9. thx enzo

    thx enzo Formula Junior

    Aug 11, 2021
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    My first Corvette, a 1989, had a digital dash. Although rather pre-historic, everyone who saw it said, “why would you want a numerical speedometer?” It would be hard to imagine vehicle without one now.


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  10. maximilien

    maximilien Formula Junior

    Apr 27, 2005
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    The problem is that old people need young people to see the future and young people need old people to remember the past. To hear some Ferraris should only sell f40 and 355 manual gearbox. Let's be happy with what Ferrari has done in the past and its heritage. But the world has changed
     
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  11. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Mar 2, 2005
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    And NOT to the good.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  12. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

    Jun 25, 2006
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    Consider regression to minimize production costs as progress...if it suits some, why not...
    But then, to be consistent, that they also buy an Apple watch, and not a Patek or Rolex...An Apple watch does everything better, doesn't it??
    As for the Ferrari and racing car analogy... today it is a baseless marketing analogy. These are heavy gts, not race cars for the road, and none of them would last more than 5 laps max on a circuit in the hands of a professional driver without losing brakes and tires...let's face it. lucid, because it has not always been the case...
     
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  13. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

    Jun 5, 2009
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    Sincerely do you consider a 1900kgs 1000hp car a progress compared with a 1350kgs 650 HP one ?
     
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  14. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

    Feb 16, 2011
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    A 355 would run out of brakes much sooner than any modern Ferrari, despite being much slower.
     
  15. Frank_C

    Frank_C F1 Rookie
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    May 29, 2004
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  16. maximilien

    maximilien Formula Junior

    Apr 27, 2005
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    I never said the opposite
     
  17. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

    Jun 25, 2006
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    Certainly not with the Brembo of the Challenge for 50% of the price of the ceramics of my F 12.
    A CS and a Scud take a carefree track day without changing anything...especially the CS!
    An STO also...
    Slower ??? Who cares ???
    it's just for the pleasure of the beautiful trajectories and the emotion... the chrono is for the professionals drivers, not gentleman drivers !
    488 Pistas don't usually keep pace with GT3 RS.
    With rare exceptions, good trackday drivers are more often in GT3 RS than in Pista...
     
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  18. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

    Nov 26, 2003
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    OK, now try to put different dashboard configurations, tyre pressures, temperatures, radio and nav system (yes, people wants that too) with dials and needles. It would look like a plane of the 70s.

    Yes, digital screens look worse, specially because in many cars the design of the graphics is not good, but it needs to be done. I find more disgusting the lack of physical buttons: it´s not practical, yet, they do it for the looks. Can you see it? Sometimes doing things just for the looks is not good.
     
  19. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

    Jun 25, 2006
    2,573
    And especially Apple car play, it is what is most interesting when configuring the car...it is telling what use is intended a Ferrari today :D.
    I want a count of towers and temperature jaufes, and Murray got it right !
     
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  20. khal360

    khal360 Formula Junior

    Feb 17, 2005
    299
    If the dash was usable and wasn’t painfully slow and non-intuitive maybe we could live with it. But for a CEO with a tech background to give us Commodore 64 technology is incomprehensible.
     
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  21. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

    Nov 26, 2003
    7,792
    I remember that some complained when they put power steering in the F355. "It ruins the feel". They were so worried about the purists that they even offered a delete-option. Now who would buy a Ferrari without power steering.

    I find this anal fixation about buttons, dashboards and styling details quite ridiculous when they've just made a SUV and there are talks about banning petrol engines.

    An electric Ferrari, that is going to be a change.
     
  22. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

    Oct 1, 2004
    3,559
    Austin TX
     
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  23. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

    Jun 25, 2006
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    It's already the beginning of the end, so it will simply put an end to this adventure !
     
  24. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

    Nov 26, 2003
    7,792
    And the graphics are ugly.

    But that's a problem with the execution, not with the concept.
     

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