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  1. Vereeken

    Vereeken Formula Junior

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    Ok so 148677 is a temp sensor that you should replace when you take the trouble of replacing the hoses under the plenum.

    Why in the world does it cost between 100 and 200 USD.

    Does it have a trick up its sleeve other then temp sensing?
     
  2. tazandjan

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    Yup, it screws into a Ferrari and comes in a little yellow box. Should be possible to find a substitute from the original manufacturer, but not sure anybody has done the research.
     
  3. Jürgen Geisler

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    Terry, stricking argument......

    As most of the components, these parts are used in some other european cars als well. Any information on the part regarding the producer?

    Hope, you'll find an alternative to the original part.


    Saluti,

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  4. tazandjan

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    There are several references to the temperature sensors in the interchange sticky up above.
     
  5. au-yt

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    #5 au-yt, Jul 5, 2016
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    I believe it's the instrument sender unit?
    On looks alone it could be this
    1920Y7 for Cirtoen / Peugeot 7760958 for Fiat 7760958
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  6. au-yt

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    I believe it's the instrument sender unit?
    On looks alone it could be this
    1920Y7 for Cirtoen / Peugeot 7760958 for Fiat
     
  7. Vereeken

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    Yes it matches those looks.

    I ordered my parts from Eurospares. (Only 2 weeks waiting time). It comes in a Yellow box that says Ferrari and...is carried by a turtle.

    The price at Eurospares is 66€.

    The funny thing is there is a second temp sensor in the V under the plenum and that is only 10€. So hence my question does it have a trick up its sleeve.
     
  8. dersark_painclinic

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    That is true, and they get old together.
     
  9. Cribbj

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    Have a look at this thread; it explains the differences in this sensor vs the cheaper ones: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/456-550-575-sponsored-bradan/451769-coolant-temp-warning-light.html

    It's also made by Jaeger, not Bosch, so if you're crossing it over with a sensor for a Citroen, etc. ensure that it's a Jaeger, and has the same resistance range as the Ferrari one. The sensor depicted for the Citroen doesn't have the same red band just below the connector as the Jaeger, so I would be a bit suspicious of it.
     
  10. Vereeken

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    Yup that would explain it.

    it did not make sense why one would be 10 € and the other 70€ and why would you have 2 so close to each other.

    In summary best not replace it with the Citroen Jumpy part....

    I have the expensive one on order. Figured I just replace now that I am in there.
     
  11. scowman

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    Old thread but a slightly different problem. The part I pulled out has 16mm x1.5 threads, and two terminals. The replacement part has only 14mm threads and one terminal. I have looked at the parts manuals on various supplier websites and I do not see any distinction for that part or that it was updated or superceded.

    I also think the part is original. Amazing it still works. I hate to put it back in but not sure if I can source an original. The cross reference thread talks about a Citroen & Fiat alternatives but I cannot find any source for those part numbers either.

    Thoughts?
     

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  12. Qavion

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    Looks like they sent you the wrong part. Did the box have the right part number on it.

    157955 does have two pins.

    Looks like you'll have to sell a child to pay for this one...

    https://www.ferrariparts.co.uk/part/ferrari/148677?id=41738

    £14,228.28 ???? :eek:

    The Eurospares site says that a new part is arriving soon. They may be remanufacturing it.
     
  13. scowman

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    #13 scowman, Apr 20, 2023
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    This is what SPUK said, It looks like there are variants of this part number. Two wires16x1.5 and one wire 14x1.25. Unless I can find at 16x1.5 version I'm going to put the old one back...

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    Good Morning Ken,

    Apologies for the delay in coming back to you we are closed between 17:00 GMT and 08:00 GMT so have just reopened.

    We order this switch directly from Ferrari UK so is the only variant we have to offer. I have checked with Ferrari classic and they no longer manufacture this piece. With this said I have not been advised of this issue before but having checked our stock we have 2 units here which match the piece already sent.
    As we do not have an alternative piece to offer the best I can offer is for you to post return the switch to us and I offer you a full refund on this piece.

    Kind regards,

    Chris Fisher
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  14. scowman

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    #14 scowman, Apr 20, 2023
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    Ricambi does not have it either...

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    I called Scuderia Car Parts and they say it is NLA...

    So I can use the old one, put an adapter on if I can find one (one more connection to leak) or replace the housing with a 14mm variant.

    I'm leaning towards the old one. I cleaned it up a bit with the wire wheel.

    Thoughts?
     

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  15. Aerosurfer

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    Is the thread pitch even the same? Those look different
     
  16. scowman

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    M16x1.5 vs M14x1.25
     
  17. Qavion

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    #17 Qavion, Apr 20, 2023
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    The old electrical connector has two pins. Even if you wired the car up to one of the pins and went without the overheat warning, how do you know the NTC resistor has the same range and characteristics?

    Are the keys on the new connector the same?
     
  18. scowman

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    Yes, they line up. I read something about an "adapter." Perhaps there is a service bulletin. I'm going to keep my eye out for an ebay unit, even if it is for one of those citroens of fiats.
     
  19. Qavion

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    Nope. I confirmed with Eurospares. They say the same thing.

    NLA

    This will affect F355 owners, too.
     
  20. scowman

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    There are a bunch of models. The only think I have found so far is some Eastern European and even an Russian language website that had them for the Fiat Skoda 1.6 early versions 1996-2003 or something like that. I did not try that but I might. I am going to keep an eye on EBAY. Every once in a while NOS stock comes up.
     
  21. Qavion

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    Is your sender actually malfunctioning? Or do you just think it's a just good idea to change it whilst your car is in pieces?

    Remember that the comments were:

    I might order one from one of those obscure websites and see if has the right characteristics.
     
  22. Qavion

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    Yep, I saw that.

    Note that the docs for the Citroen 486114 show different internals. The Ferrari version has a switch as well as an NTC resistance.

    [​IMG]
     
  23. scowman

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    Right. I am wondering if these things fail much. They are Jaeger and not Bosch. Mine still works after more than 25 years. Does not look like it is corroding through. It's a sensuous replacement part. Sensuous was in there.... Is there demand for failed parts? We will see.
     
  24. Timmo

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    I believe these Bosch dash gauge temp senders hardly ever fail, at least and FWIW I have not heard of a failure on regular German cars. I am not saying this never happens but if yours work I would not worry too much and reuse it. If it fails it may "only" show bogus temp readings but the engine will still run fine and at least will not leave you stranded.
     
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