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  1. jpalmito

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    True.
     
  2. kandi

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    #3577 kandi, May 8, 2023
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    Well, then WHY a different strategy for Max? Christian is a funny guy :D (Same laugh as with the budget breach)
    If anyone watched the race you could hear them nursing Max to be sure he will win and instead, Checo didn't get such support about his tyre strategy. ;p

    They know very well that Checo is capable of winning against Max.
     
  3. jpalmito

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    Sorry to disagree
    Checo is no match with Verstappen.
    Not even close.
     
  4. Bas

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    starting out of position, it's wiser to start on the harder tyre as it gives a wider range to cover for SC situations, for example. Also being in traffic, the hard won't overheat as quickly when sitting in dirty air.

    You need to look up what role the driver race engineers play for drivers. They work for the drivers best interest, not the team, only when the team overrides the engineer would such things happen. A driver's race engineer will never NOT give the information required by the driver. Perez has Hugh Bird, Max uses Gianpiero Lambiase. The drivers' engineer objective is to finish ahead of the teammate and decide which strategy they use, together.
     
  5. SS454

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    Considering everyone in the top 8 all elected for Medium - Hard strategy, I would say most felt that was the best way to go. We usually see teams start with the softer tire to start to get the best start possible. The first 2 laps can gain or lose positions the easiest, so teams want their drivers on the faster race tire. When you are in the back in a very fast car, the harder tire makes more sense.
     
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  6. DF1

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    Verstappen and engineer took Miami F1 hard tyre plan to strategists
    Max Verstappen says he and his engineer hatched between them the plan to start the Miami Grand Prix on hard tyres before taking it to Red Bull’s Formula 1 strategists.
     
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  7. william

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    Jordan: 'Verstappen will be the greatest driver of all time' - GPblog

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    Jordan: 'Verstappen will be the greatest driver of all time'
    Eddie Jordan and David Coulthard get into a conversation about Max Verstappen's exceptional class as a racing driver. Jordan dares to say he expects Verstappen to one day become the greatest of all time. His mother contributed to that as well.

    Coulthard does not see how anyone can ever beat the Red Bull Racing driver on his own. Only with a stronger car is his competition capable of anything against the Dutchman. Sergio Pérez therefore faces an impossible task. In the Formula for Success podcast, Jordan thinks Pérez is at least doing pretty well. "‘Ricciardo was there, but there’s no way Daniel Ricciardo is doing, what Checo is doing. What Daniel has done, as how much we like the guy, but Checo was doing a magic job”"
     
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    MV is a great driver. I don't think he is better than any other multi-world champion YET. MV is thrilling to watch because he does take chances to win. LH made his wins look easy. He rarely seemed to take chances to win. He strategically beat his opponents. LH mind blows up in near equal machinery when racing MV. LH plays MV's game and often looses. Perez seems to forget he was hired to be Bottas to hamilton not a challenger who might distract MV. MV has the whole team behind him. Perez would be gone if Red Bull could find someone else with Perez ability to match MV in an MV developed car. No other team mate to date has been able to challenge MV. Red Bull wants perez to come in #2 with no challenge to #1 and they will give zero support to Perez everytime he challenges MV.
     
  10. jgonzalesm6

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    The only team-mate that has challenged MV is Ricciardo.....whom found out the team was behind MV hence why he left RedBull......but now he's back......sort of as a reserve driver.

    He's gonna jump into the RB19 at Silverstone for the 1st time btw.
     
  11. Bas

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    Ric left for various reasons:

    he and Max matched each other when Max was still young and was driving with a point to prove, i.e. 100% all the time. Fast forward to monaco 2018 and Max hit the wall driving at 100% in practice, missing the Quali as a result...Helmut had a chat with Max saying that driving at 100% all the time wasn't necessary. Max then dialed everything back just a tad, and that was that. He wasn't beaten on merit since.

    Add in the Honda deal and Renault waving 30 million dollars in Ric's face (to spite red bull), and the potential for Honda to still deliver a **** engine vs Renault who was close to RB at the time...add in a sprinkle of #1 status...the deal was made.

    The car wasn't build around Max. The team at the time was very much a whoever wins, wins team still.
     
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  12. william

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    +1
     
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  13. Phil~

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    Ricci had 8 DNF's in 2018.
    That car was cursed.

     
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  14. Bas

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    6 of those technical retirements vs 3 for Max.

    Max also had plenty of reliability issues that year and the years before, cars randomly dying during races or in practice, quali.
     
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  16. DF1

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    Why Max - you have multiple titles and your new engine is very much a Honda lol. Who cares!!!!!!!!!! You have FORD lol. :)

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/verstappen-hondas-aston-martin-f1-move-a-bit-of-a-shame/10473382/
    Verstappen: Honda's Aston Martin F1 move "a bit of a shame"
    Max Verstappen says seeing Honda team up with Aston Martin in Formula 1 is "a bit of a shame" and it was "unfortunate" how its collaboration with Red Bull ended.
    By: Megan White
    May 25, 2023, 4:18 PM

    It was revealed on Wednesday that Aston Martin is to become Honda's official works partner in 2026, having previously announced its exit from F1 in 2021.

    The Japanese manufacturer formally quit F1 that year but has continued to support Red Bull's engine division.

    Its future beyond the end of 2025 when its Red Bull deal ends had been unclear, with the Milton Keynes-based team working with Ford for its own Powertrains efforts from 2026.

    Honda says its decision to commit to F1 so soon after walking away was triggered by the series' commitment to increased sustainability ambitions.

    Speaking ahead of this weekend's Monaco Grand Prix, Verstappen said it was "a bit unfortunate how all of that turned out," referring to Honda's U-turn.

    He said he had "loved working with [Honda]," adding that "for Aston Martin, it's really good."

    Verstappen said: "I think from our side, of course, it's a bit unfortunate how all of that turned out because a few years ago, they say we're gonna stop, so then Red Bull sets up its own engine division, and then at one point they say no, we continue.

    "Unfortunately, once you're already in the process of building a whole engine yourself, you can't really work together anymore. It's a bit of a shame, I would say.

    "We always have and had a really good relationship with them, and then seeing them go to Aston Martin is a bit of a shame.

    "But I mean, we are also very excited from our side from 2026 onwards to see what's going to happen together with Ford.

    "It is what it is. A few years ago, we thought they were gonna leave, (but) now they stay and they go with Aston Martin.

    "For Aston Martin, it's really good, they have a great engine, we all know that. So it is what it is."

    He added: "I love working with them, we've had a lot of success already, so of course I will be sad to see them go at one point, but we already expected that right?

    "Because they said we're gonna pull out, so we already had a kind of a goodbye. But yeah, it is what it is.

    "I mean, of course, I'm happy for the Honda people that they stay in Formula 1, but sad to see them go."
     
  17. ktu

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    Throwing Honda under the bus after they help him win titles.
     
  18. william

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    Sorry, but I don't see anything in what Verstappen said that was disrespectful towards Honda.

    He simply regrets no working with them anymore. That's all.
     
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    Honda "leaving" F1 and only to come back in 2026 to be an engine supplier to AMRF1 is above Max's pay grade.

    RedBull have their own powertrains division with new facilities thanks to Honda.
     
  20. william

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    You can fill the blanks with the names HONDA, RENAULT or FORD.
     
  21. jpalmito

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    N’importe quoi !:D
     
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  22. ktu

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    I've been saying that for years.
     
  23. Sempre_gilles

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    Perhaps Honda should be grateful that Red Bull Racing hugely improved Honda's imago after the McLaren debacle?
    Especially for Japanese companies, imago is all important.
     
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  24. ktu

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    I think they are greatful for RB, they should be.
     
  25. william

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    Red Bull took a huge gamble when they decided on Honda to supply engines to their B Team: Toro Rosso.
    It was a toe in the water, following the McLaren debacle, but the experiment worked.
     
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