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Why do other drivers try to race me???

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Jor, Mar 24, 2023.

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  1. 05F430F1

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    That was perfection…. Especially in the drunken, yet sensical drabble of a Jack Sparrow


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  2. SVCalifornia

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    we didn’t deserve that!

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  3. DGS

    DGS Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    No need to drive the Ferrari to Walmart around here.
    The store delivers to your home. :D

    (Usually SUVs or minivans, but one guy did deliver in an STi. ;))

    As someone with both an EVO and a 328, the EVO may be quicker on acceleration, but it only knows one way around a corner. The Ferrari has a larger driver's toolbox. But it takes more skill to get the full good out of it.
    Granted, that's more a feature of the classic Ferraris than of the newer models.
     
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  4. Tony91505

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    Some people prefer illusion to despair and I suspect our good ole boy Alvin is one of them. There are people on this forum whose cars cost more than you will ever make in your simple life. If you trade time for money you are simply limited as far as income, taxes et cetera. I do applaud his irrational sense of optimism, lol. bragging about his 700k home on fchat is laughable. Please bestow more of your wisdom. I, for one, find it equally laughable and entertaining.
     
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  5. AlvinG

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    Boy you guys are delusional, how does it feel being so delusional that you believe having a 200k 458 or a 100k 360 makes you a 1%? Hilarious!!!
     
  6. AlvinG

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    The fact that 67 million people in America live off EBT/Social security and government pay might feed into your illusion, I’m sure those are the people you interact with daily in the comment sections on Tiktok and Facebook.
    Does it feed your sensitive ego to believe this is your competition into the Ferrari entry?
    I haven’t laughed this hard in a long while. 10, ten people roughly believe they are the only ones in America who can afford a Ferrari based off their exhausting position in achieving it, and can’t fathom it not taking nearly the effort, or luck.
    700k also wasn’t a brag. The fact you think that’s bragging again, hilarious.
    My neighbor makes $1M a year selling frozen water, frozen water ROFL. Keep living your delusional life, I’m breaking out the popcorn for this.
     
  7. stretchgeneral

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    I think other drivers try to race Ferraris because it is fun.
     
  8. CoreyNJ

    CoreyNJ F1 Rookie
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    Ok. I have stayed out of this and enjoyed the read but I must comment….

    Having a 200k 458 or a 100k 360 is very different than being able to afford one. Most people who do not make major sacrifices or do their own maintenance, and even that may not be enough, will never be able to afford to keep their “toy”. Let’s face it these are expensive toys. No one needs one to survive. The annual cost on average to keep a 100k 360 for someone who is not a skilled backyard mechanic is about 5 to 7k minimum a year. Some years you spend 2k and some years you spend 10k or more. If you buy a newer one, like a 488 they can’t afford the depreciation and then later on the maintenance when that is not “fee”, not even counting wear items.

    For a normal person who has a home, work cars, food, electricity, medical, kids and saving for college and retirement owning a 100k or 200k depreciating asset once you factor in maintenance is just not an option. Sure you can make trade off’s but really should you???

    I always hate the “anyone can afford a ferrari”comments because most financially ignorant people think they can and guess what, they can’t afford to actually drive it. Same goes for the big house in the suburb.

    BTW at 27, I owned a new Lamborghini and multiple Porsche cars but didn’t have kids yet. Guess what? When I had kids I didn’t own a Lamborghini and went down to a single Porsche and didn’t have a Ferrari till I could own one in cash and had enough liquid capital to pay for four years of both my kids in a private university put completely aside.




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  9. Ivan Drago

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    Dude. You are the only one that thinks you are the 1% here. In fact, you are the one that keeps saying everyone, including dishwashers can be the 1% if they work hard enough.
    No one has brought up 1%, wealth or anything like that in this thread or rarely anywhere else before you came along as started acting like a fricking knob. Grow up and stop being so delusional. You sound unhinged and like you need meds.
     
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  10. Shorn355

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    Walmart rocks :cool:
     
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  12. dstacy

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    Especially when you have coupons!
     
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  13. Shorn355

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  14. AlvinG

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    I’d think most people who are waiting 2 years for an F8, are just going to flip it.
    I agree, being able to afford one and being able to drive one up to 100,000 miles in 4 years is just semantics and now we’re heading into a different concept of delusion. If you’re spending $7,000 to drive a 360, 2,000 miles a year, something is really wrong with you or the car. Most people in the business of Ferrari ownership, are in it exactly for that. They keep them under 8,000 miles and sale it to the next guy. Depreciating asset is a Luke warm statement, depending on individual user use.

    If you think you’re special hop on the good ole zillow, sold section. Put $1M as the minimum and select a random state. There’s roughly 210,000 members signed up here, and 1,500 are online at once. California this year? 345,000 homes 1M+, 30 years of payment.
    The audacity you have to claim it’s rare or abnormal, is ridiculous.

    67M are government assisted
    73M are 18 and under.
    55M are 65 and older (elderly)
    This leaves 158M population in the entire USA.

    We’re talking about the housing market, which is a 30 year sign up and there’s Millions doing it. More in CA than there are members in this forum and that’s 5 months of numbers alone.

    11% make 75k-99k
    15.9% make 100k-149k
    8% earn 150k-199k
    And 11.6% earn 200k+


    This is individually and not household.
    Have fun with that.
     
  15. AlvinG

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    warning heard loud and clear boss.
     
  16. AlvinG

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    Let me take a step back, I quite frankly really enjoy this forum and don’t want to be banned from it or the people in it. I apologize for annoying anyone and truly it wasn’t my intention. I also apologize for coming off as a jerk, and really want to learn from you all, as much as I can. I didn’t mean to take this topic off track and really don’t want to insult any of you, any further, or again.
    I know times were way more rough in the 70s-80s-90s and for you all to achieve what you have, is definitely 1 of a kind. Truly, the originals who did it that early, are brilliant.

    I apologize again, and hope someday we can all just enjoy the community and I can one day earn my right to be here with the greats.
     
  17. CoreyNJ

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    Except for the last two and a half years which is now self correcting, only special models were “flipping” models. In fact even Ford F150 new car owners were flipping their vehicles during Covid shortages. FYI most owners don’t buy a Ferrari to flip, they buy them for other reasons.

    And yes many of us spend tens of thousands of dollars to drive our cars 2000 miles a year because we have more than one fun car and spend our spare time doing other things. When I bought my Ferrari, I figured I’d lose about 15 to 20 grand a year between maintenance and depreciation. I can afford this, but most people can’t no matter how much they save up or wash more dishes. I know how fortunate I am as there are a lot of people who gasoline goes up 50 cents a gallon and they then have to worry about how they can afford to get to work.




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  18. Ffre92

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    Amazed this alone was tolerated by the mods
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    @paulchua is a former mod and handled it well. Had he or anybody else reported it there would have been significant moderation of @AlvinG.
     
  20. birkinboy

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    Just yesterday I went for a ride to meet some landscrapers at my apt. house when some guys in a beat up Ford F250 tried everything they could to race. Not a chance...If we were on a track sure. I was in my Exige S, it does generate odd behaviors, I know I could smoke them. 1850 lbs. 300HP vs 2 tons of iron. It would have been fun to demonstrate what they were up against but I feel they knew it was a no-win but wanted to try me. I'm too old for that trap.....It's a very small town so we'll probably meet sometime......hopefully in the local pub and I'll buy them a beer.
     
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  21. mikesufka

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    Good humor here …. Wow

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  22. Shark01

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    What a excrement show this thread is.....

    I actually agree with the premise that most can buy a Ferrari given enough time and a sound plan....probably not a Pista of course but there are many "entry level" Ferraris about. I'm just an 8-5 Engineer, not a manager....if we had a timeclock I would be the guy punching it. I have the usual expenditure structure of one with multiple kids.

    I'm that guy who worked massive overtime, took side jobs, sold PTO. Took me 9 years to save up $150k in cash to go shopping. Could have bought many types of Ferraris in 2014 for that, but chose a Lamborghini Diablo Roadster instead.

    Enjoyed that so much, I started again, and 6 years later having saved $200k, instead of a Scuderia (which I really liked) or a 458 (which I didn't after driving it), bought a FORD.....the horror LOL.

    That FORD is the best car our country (most here are US citizens) produced in the first 100 years of making automobiles. A legend, an icon, what a car to drive (but not park...LOL).

    The only people that don't get it are those who haven't driven it (or maybe someone who can't drive a stick).

    Now I think this alvin guy (teenager or whatever) has multiple screws loose but clapping back with elitism isn't a good look and accentuates the stereotype.

    And yes.....I didn't have money left over to build a garage mahal.....I will accept donations....LOL


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  23. 05F430F1

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    I don’t think anyone, including myself, were saying it’s SO exclusive. I certainly felt that ‘Ferraris are an everyman’s car that even dishwashers can afford’ was the statement that sparked myself and others to say the contrary. And I guess if we are talking about an old Ferrari for 30-100k, yes I guess most people could afford since that’s what most regular cars cost anyway… but I also think when people mention Ferrari as an overall brand, they are more referring to the 250k+ mark. And at that number, it is CERTAIN that ‘most’ people can’t afford one.


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  24. Ffre92

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    Ha! My garage is similar. It really belongs in the “priorities” thread. You should see my driveway, looks like a used car lot (although a nice one:))

    I was debating gated f430 vs gallardo 560-2 vs ford gt at the time. Would still love to add a fgt, but with prices climbing the way they are, that boat has sailed. Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
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  25. Shark01

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    So where my daughter works, dishwashers get an equal cut of tips so they do very well judging by what my daughter gets. So yes, given time and a sound plan I'm sure it is possible.

    I was a full-time janitor after high school so I know what the minimum wage life is like....without the tips.

    Actually, people on the street think all Ferraris and Lamborghinis are million dollar cars.
     
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