My understanding from the tour was Ferrari considers the 12 cars hand built. Much more so than the 8, although either much more so than almost any other manufacturer.
I suppose the difference comes from whether there are more or less tools/robotics used to complete the assembly. Not sure if there’s a difference among V8, V6 or 12 cylinder engines. What I know is each 12 cylinder has to undergo a „hot test“ (running on its own with all liquids) on a test bench whereas just every 10th of the 6/8 versions have to do so. The remaining ones are just „cold tested“ (driven by external power with most of the liquids).
A bit testy, huh? The validity of your post turns on the comparison pool. I suspect many would agree with me that the 'well established' pool of 'elite' automobile manufacturers is comprised of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, McLaren, Bugatti, Koenigsegg, and Pagani, In this pool of seven, your statement fails.
I don't know if this is a new thing, but a few years ago all engines went to the dyno and were tested to confirm the claimed numbers. Also the V12s were assembled by a single technician, on different stations.
How about Aston Martin, Mercedes AMG Black, Maserati,Jaguar? Granted they don’t produce only sports cars but then again neither does Porsche, Lambo or Ferrari any more… Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
There is 0 chance they are spending hundreds of millions developing a new V12. The current iteration is still dominating the market in terms of performance, and there isn't really a future for the next generation either, especially with the current Ferrari management.
Unfortunately. But nothing is lost. They can change their mind again with european regulations softening. Why not ? Lambo is producing a brand new V12 and some rumors are talking about a V16 cosworth for the Chiron replacement.
Things have changed a bit: https://www.motor1.com/news/666402/ferrari-investing-in-ice-engines/ Can Ferrari keep the current V12 valid for 15+ years? It is a pretty heavy engine as far as I know. Driving dynamics and efficiency would improve if they could reduce the weight. I bet Ferrari has noticed that they can get much bigger income from V12 cars that have limited delivery. But V12 needs to be more efficient as well.
I say it again, there are no more V12 cars on the product plan, with the exception of 167 and its derivatives and Icona. No new V 12 development is scheduled to date...unfortunatly The product plan until 2030 has not changed: 40% hybrid + 40% full electric + 20% ICE
for sure they'll continue to develop it. But not sure how much is actually doable. They already had to decrease the torque in order to get the extra 30 HP for the 812 Competizione. They can maybe increase the displacement a bit more but there's probably not much capacity left, and that's also going against the EPA tightening...
Expect same power (at least) as 812C, hopefully they figured out how to prevent the oil consumption issues...
The lambo v12 is not all new, don't believe their marketing, it's very similar to the Aventador engine.
Actually, 17kg lighter and there are sufficient changes to the internals to definitely "Frame" it as re-worked, but, a new block/new design it is not... https://www.topgear.com/car-news/supercars/new-217mph-hybrid-lamborghini-revuelto-hypercar Now back to the combustion engine. It makes 814bhp at 9,250rpm in the Revuelto, and 525lb ft of torque. It’s more powerful than the unit in the Aventador and can rev 1,000rpm higher. It’s also been turned 180° in the engine bay compared to the old car, in order to accommodate the new gearbox. At 218kg, it weighs 17kg less than before. The air intake ducts to the cylinders have been re-engineered to increase air flow to the combustion chamber, and there’s a new crank and valvetrain. The compression ratio has been increased (12.6:1 now), and the exhaust has been reworked to reduce back-pressure at high revs.
