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  1. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    not that bad, considering what Vegas charges.
     
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  2. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    Does Vegas have a marina?!

    But seriously, your point is true. Some of the prices are so ludicrous and yet they find people to pay them and that, my friends, is a free market economy at work…. Bit like F1 teams used to be pre cost cap.
     
  3. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Could ALONSO WON the RACE? Monaco GP 2023

     
  4. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    haha, no but don't give them any ideas! Considering there are packages out there with a frankly insane price tag attached to it, the 100K bill for 100 meter superyachts (which for those owning such yachts of that size is literally nothing, pretty much part of their weekly bill to keep the thing afloat). The 5 million dollars for a hotel room and access to the grid is shameful and anyone that paid anywhere near that is a mug. My point being is that those that worked their way up to afford superyachts that cost at least 60 million to well over double that (since we're talking 90 meter plus), they'll have made some friends along the way and if they want to have a walk-see on the grid, it should be a few phone calls away.

    Whoever paid the 5 million has to be someone that won the jackpot with a few crypto ****coins. There is no way you make the kind of money to piss away on a weekend in vegas without making the right connections otherwise.
     
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  5. DGS

    DGS Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    The "cost cutting" began under Mad Max Moe, when he was trying to get teams to use the Cosworth engines he was invested in.
    There was talk about major teams starting a spin-off series rebelling against FIA.
    He was driving the actual car manufacturers out of the series, and was trying to bring in small one-off teams he could strong-arm.

    Ross inherited the fall-out from that fiasco.
    But didn't have the leverage to reset to 10 years earlier.
     
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  6. watt

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    i reinstate my request to delete Monaco from the schedule. whilst the last few minutes of q3 was sublime, that's for obvious reasons: the "race" is a waste of time.

    i did enjoy the rain, and the confusion caused by my watching with my dark glasses -- i couldn't tell which car was Perez, or Stroll, or Officer Georgie, or even Carlos -- their driving was so similarly teenage and dangerous.

    this of course is caused by the frustration of a street with no room to pass; this also frustrates the fans. drop this pig, find another Spa.
     
  7. Westworld

    Westworld Three Time F1 World Champ
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    https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/33986943/has-formula-one-outgrown-monaco

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/28/f1-monaco-grand-prix-race-contract-up-lustre-faded

    I'm guessing Monaco will have to end its cut of the trackside sponsorship, (did they do this already as part of the new three-year contract they signed last year to keep the race in Monaco? I noticed Rolex replaced long-time Tag Hauer yesterday), higher fees, and TV deal, and maybe work to try to improve the course after the 2025 race?
     
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  8. TonyL

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    When you consider that many other race circuits have spent fortunes to bring the tracks and facilities up to date and meet FIA standards yet this silly little track seems to get away with it, heritage is the excuse......more like maintaining the tax haven for F1
     
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  9. william

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    Spot on !!!
     
  10. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Like I said in the pre-race thread...we could quite easily make Monaco a lot better for overtaking/racing by doing the following..have a few wide barges with extending hydraulic legs. Heavy on the brakes right after first swimming pool, then a decent straight, 90 degree slow corner and another straight run up back to rascasse. Monaco will be happy as well as they'll be able to use quite a lot of extra harbour space to put more yachts alongside the track, a few extra grandstands as well.

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  11. Alexweav79

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    Why not just put the nouvelle chicance closer to tabac?
     
  12. DF1

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    Liberty and FIA can just dump this race until Monaco figures out a circuit that can support beached whale size F1 cars. They continue to say they have more interest than a calendar can support. NO ONE missed this crap 'race' during COVID void it had. No press at all. Thats the solution. Toss this to Monaco to propose a circuit and then have FIA/Liberty assess it.
     
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  13. william

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    Why not REMOVE the chicane altogether, and go straight from the tunnel to Tabac? That would give another overtaking opportunity.
    The "swimming pool" already acts as a chicane. Before, it was straight from Tabac to the Gazometre (before Rascasse was added), with another straight long enough for overtaking.
     
  14. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    The current circuit is width limited. The current cars are just sooo huge that they will need more radical circuit surgery to make this “parade” into a “race”. Personally, I would prefer them to just ditch it all together and replace with a more worthy track.
     
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  15. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes, the logic says this circuit is obsolete, and cannot significantly be improved.
    Monaco should be replaced on the calendar by a challenging track, and there is no shortage of them.
    But since when the FIA and Liberty apply logic ?
     
  16. Westworld

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  17. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Make the cars narrower, lighter and shorter.

    Monaco can add on to the track in the harbor.
     
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  19. TonyL

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    More in line with my wealth....I seem to recall back in 1981, a bottle of Coca Cola was £4.50.....told the guy to shove it where the sun doesnt shine.
     
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