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348 Persistent Misfire

Discussion in '348/355' started by Mike Ferrari, Mar 1, 2016.

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  1. Mike Ferrari

    Mike Ferrari Rookie

    Jul 10, 2007
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    Whilst the car was on test, they checked the temperatures of the exhausts with a thermal camera. The left bank was running much hotter than the right suggesting a lean mixture rather than the rich mixture the fowled spark plugs suggested... I'm still not sure about this point but facts are facts...

    Anyway, I have two new O2 sensors on order (best to fit in pairs). Once they are fitted, we can do some more tests and we'll know a little more...

    As I said previously, I'm hoping to run the car without the thermocouple ECU's, but I'm looking for proof that the car doesn't run on a default map when this 'change' is made...

    Hopefully another update coming soon!

    Thanks again!
     
  2. Jackie and bill

    Jackie and bill Formula Junior

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    I am just taking a moment :), I take em were I can :D
     
  3. ///Mike

    ///Mike F1 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2003
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    Two things I can think of offhand that could explain wet/fouled plugs combined with higher exhaust temps:

    1) Significantly retarded ignition timing-- if the spark event is occurring late, combustion in the cylinders themselves may not be complete enough to keep the plugs clean and the remaining fuel may be burning in the exhaust, raising its temp.

    2) Advanced exhaust cam timing. This should show up in a comparison of compression readings. I thought you'd already done one but scanning back through the thread I didn't notice mention of it. I'd suggest checking compression on all 8 cylinders forthwith if you have not done so already. You've beaten your head against the wall for a while now so it might be time to reconsider the basics.
     
  4. Mike Ferrari

    Mike Ferrari Rookie

    Jul 10, 2007
    7
    She's not completely out of the woods yet, but your point is well made Jackie & Bill! Thanks :)
     
  5. Jasonberkeley

    Jasonberkeley Formula 3
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    Apr 23, 2017
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    What was the problem and solution?!
     
  6. steved033

    steved033 F1 World Champ
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    Apr 12, 2017
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    Do you have a misfire?

    Mine was 34 year old spark plug wires....

    sjd
     
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  7. Jasonberkeley

    Jasonberkeley Formula 3
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    Yes- CYL 1-4 check engine light. Replaced ground wires, battery cables, relays, Oxygen sensors, etc...

    Plugs, plug wires, etc... all two years old.
     
  8. m.stojanovic

    m.stojanovic F1 Rookie
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    Did you check fuel pressure?
     
  9. Jasonberkeley

    Jasonberkeley Formula 3
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    Yup. The following were also checked and were all fine:

    - Coil Packs
    - Fuel Pressure
    - Fuel injectors / wiring
    - Mass air flow sensors / wiring
     
  10. Ferrarium

    Ferrarium F1 Veteran
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    What is the code your getting?
     
  11. Pangea

    Pangea Formula Junior

    Mar 27, 2011
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    Crank sensor / wiring for that bank..???
     

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