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  1. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Growth will not be eternal in F1.
     
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  2. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    Frankly everything about this Financial aspect of formula One looks more and more artificial and fragile..
    Verstappen and Red Bull winning everything until 2026 may unbalance the whole project .
     
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  3. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    They seem to care only about exposure and they're getting plenty of that.

    I don't see 1 billion entry fee as anywhere near sane either but apparently that's where we're at.
     
  4. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    F1 is making hay whilst the sun shines. It won't last.
     
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  5. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

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    I wish some day I'll see Liberty begging to get new entries after the bubble bursted.
     
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  6. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Bubble can burst sooner than planned. Le Mans and its popularity and response are a wake up call. F1 is now a mess. Myriad rules and absurd cost cap at 135mil. With FIA now saying cars are too heavy its time to revisit more of the formula!!
     
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  7. 635CSI

    635CSI F1 Rookie

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    I enjoyed Le Mans more than any GP since Charles won Monza, and on balance probably more than that.
    It’s a whole different thing to the Liberty show.
    And for those who think Italians can’t run a racing team, I give you AF Corse.

    Anyway, back to the regular F1 grind now, where are we next? I honestly can’t remember.
     
  8. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Oh Canada lol :)
     
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  9. jpalmito

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    #1009 jpalmito, Jun 13, 2023
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    Some news from Italy.
    An insider said Ferrari found nothing after a close inspection on the Charles car which badly performing during the Spanish qualy ..
    Thoughts ?
     
  10. Giallo 550

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    It's hard to believe, given how Sainz performed compared to him.
     
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  11. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Driver thats the only variable. Bad day for Charles. All have them.........
     
  12. jpalmito

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    Charles not in Q2 and Sainz P2 in the end..
    I can’t believe this,sorry.
     
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  13. Giallo 550

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    A botched setup makes much more sense, especially considering his ability to put the car on pole.
     
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  14. jpalmito

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    To be honest I don’t buy this either..
     
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  15. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Don't say it Joe...........don't freakin say it Joe.
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    Conspiracy theory(Santander)......there......I said it.:p
     
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  16. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    With the car's setup/tyre temp window being incredibly narrow on the Ferrari, it makes sense. Track evolution was pretty big for starters due to the rain. Wrong setup = harder to drive. His outlap on final run was 23 seconds faster than Sainz...overcooked the tyres on that lap = out of Q1.

    Start from the back, **** strategy all around...
     
  17. jpalmito

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    I tend to believe you are right on this one.
    The bad news is if this is true,Charles just demonstrated to lack some essential technicals skills to be a title contender..
     
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  18. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    It's only happened once to this extent so he deserves the benefit of doubt on this one for sure. I can't recall any car this sensitive to tyre temps though, which really exaggerated the problem.
     
  19. nerofer

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    You remember it has been said, and with some valid arguments, in 2008-2009 to explain:
    a. the rise of Felipe Massa against Kimi (Finland = a market of 5 millions; South America plus the whole Spanish-speaking world, more than a hundred times bigger)
    b. the decision to part with Kimi and sign Alonso instead?

    Dunno what's right or wrong, but the villain's costume seems tailored to suit Santander...at least for once, it's not us French...

    Rgds
     
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  20. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    Makes me even more convinced that Charles has to find a way out of this casino as fast as possible...

    Rgds
     
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  21. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    2008 pissed me off beyond belief. To go in a development route suspension wise that Kimi was dead against and wasn't listened to the whole season, meaning he became a bit off pace...to finally putting the suspension back near the of the season on Kimi's car to early season spec (thus no development on it) and him immediately being on the pace...and the whole title lost on the last corner. Ferrari REALLY blew it that year. Again.

    But Kimi always understood it...''business'' he called it. If Kimi was a criminal he'd be one of those well into his 70s never been caught with so much as stealing a packet of chewing gum. Plays the game very well he did.
     
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  22. Kimi2007

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    No, the bubble won't last forever. At some point, there will be a team that determines F1 is not worth the ROI. Haas, Williams, and Renault (Alpine) are going to need a breakout year at some point. Their financers won't wait forever.

    It certainly would not surprise me to see Renault withdraw from F1 if their Le Mans program is productive.
     
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  23. Giallo 550

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    Is anyone else amused that now it appears Hamilton will have a new contract with MB, the media is sending Leclerc off to Alpine?
     
  24. jpalmito

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    So this Formula One car’s generation is so easy to drive that we now have drivers aged 40 years old ?
    Something looks weird isn’t it ?
     
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  25. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Windsor has been learning from cheap media. Make idiotic claims, media will create the headlines, people will interact with it on social media. All the talk is about Peter sending more viewers to his youtube channel where he'll gain more subs and more interaction = slice of the youtube money pie.

    Credibility is not important anymore.
     
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