As far as I know, it will be built with the engine and mechanics of the 296, but it will not be a 296, it will be a specific model in the normal range, with its own design, much sportier than the 296, light and without hybridization. Even positioned above the future 296 VS. It would be interesting to start a topic about this model.
I continue to have faith in the brand and they will do something completely unexpected like a NA or NA with hybrid assist. I has been proven with the z06, gt3rs, gt3 and ruvelto that either is possible while still complying with regulations. Besides why is ferrari testing a STO. Only time will tell.
but NA will be challenging for a 3L V6....a VS would need to be >830hp...3 and 3rs have only 500hp....the others have large displacement V8/10/12....the hybrid would need to fill in 400hp, which is not possible given the battery capacity unless there is some advanced tech magic trick
WHAT? that last part is a wet dream for any real driver. light without hybrid positioned above the VS?
Sounds like people who specified Asseto Fiorano pack on SF90 are being given priority on allocation for SF90VS. I suspect 296 VS will be much more widely available but it will be interesting to see if the same is true for 296 VS as this may well be the latest "qualification" hurdle that punters have to jump.
No way we’ll get NA, but non-hybrid is definitely within the realm of possibilities seeing the success many manufacturers (including Ferrari) are having with non-hybrid cars. Cheap to develop, just use the same engine from SF90 or 296 but drop the electrics. Ferrari walks away with their pockets full and the customers get what they want. Everybody wins.
Derek posted these on instagram so I shared in the 488 section but the project # he shared is for a V6 so this maybe in fact a mute for the 296Vs. What do you think ? https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/488-mulotipo-f163vs-project.677028/
As far as I know, this mule is from the non-hybrid V6 model, which will be positioned even above the 296 VS, which will come later. It will use the mechanics of the 296, but it will not be a 296. It will be another model in the range. I didn't like the turbo whistle in the video. The 296 GTB has less whistle. I think that doesn't suit Ferrari at all. When I hear a 992 whistling loudly, I find it annoying.
I've moved it into the 296 threads https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/f163-based-project.677065/
to be positioned even above the VS means carbon fibre. what else would make it cost so much more since the engine is simplified without hybrid??? it is also the only way it could be faster- by being lighter- since i don't think this V6 alone can get to over 800 hp???? the 750S makes 750 hp from a V8 but needs the extremely light body for the power/weight ratio it has....
Look at the thread Its a 488 modified with a non hybrid V6 so could be the direct 488/F8 non hybrid replacement or something else
For a future model, if they simply took a 296 and dropped all of the hybrid stuff and then also deleted all of the in-cabin electronics like haptics, this would be my dream car. 500-600 hp is good enough if the car weighs 2700 lbs. I think this is doable.
When cars are made by geeks... you have it for years ... take or leave,unfortunatly... and personally, I leave !
I’ve said it before, but I’m going to say it again. I don’t understand the infatuation with digital display. Ferrari’s analog tachometer was one of the Ferrari staples (along with engine noise, beautiful looks, etc). Let’s look at this example: an Apple Watch can do infinitely more things than a Rolex, but there is a level of craftsmanship, elegance and history of the Rolex that, well, makes its it a Rolex. You would never take the Apple Watch to a dinner, business meeting, wedding etc over the Rolex or another top Swiss timepiece All digital watches look the same, where as Rolex are special. All digital displays end up looking the same, and this is compounded by the fact that all electric motors seem to drive the same so in the future this will be even worse. Because I’m already on a rant, I want to go one step further, so please bear with me because this is what Ferrari has actually done. Imagine Rolex has produced a watch that has a beautiful classic Rolex band, case and all these things more, but THEN stuck a digital display inside of it. That’s what the 296 feels like to me. The exterior is so elegant and classic and then you have the steering wheel with no manettino and the display with this digital nonsense going on and a tachometer that gets covered up by Steve Jobs creation when you want to plug your iPhone in. It doesn’t make any sense to me!
The ideal set up would be one small touch screen for CarPlay. The rest of the car just traditional switches and buttons. Mid engine Ferraris are my favorite but we have been dealing with an ergonomics nightmare since 2010.
I just dont think they would make a street legal production car lacking the hybrid. The hybrid cuts emissions by as much as 50% and boosts fuel economy as much as 4X on the testing. They need to hit these targets to keep selling NA V12, which is not good on emissions nor economy. I would love to be wrong. Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat
I believe you are correct as well. Things are already in motion that cannot be undone, as they say. Unfortunately. However, hybrid is okay as long as full electric stays out of the picture. Likewise, if we can revert back to some physical buttons and analogue feel which gives the sense Ferrari craftsmanship is on the interior as well as the exterior I would be happy. I could be the only one who feels this way however and what do I know? They sell these things out anyway so why should they change? It’s just disappointing to me is what I would say.
Starting from the end, the 296 does have a Manettino. Two of them actually, the classic one and a digital one, with haptic buttons. Whilst I agree that physical buttons are better, I disagree with the Rolex analogy. Expensive watches do have intricate mechanisms, but most of the times you are paying for the decorative precious metals and/or diamonds, not the mechanism itself. At any rate, an "analogue" Ferrari tach was a digital mechanism with a physical needle; the whole RPM measuring process was electronic anyway. Personally, I prefer the option of having different interfaces (like the track mode with the tach as a bar), but that's down to opinions. PS: Why would one want to plug a phone to the car? More pertinent, why would one prefer an iPhone over an Android...
I’m driving a Roma now with a 296 on the way. The Roma is very techy. Annoying at first, but honestly once you get used to it it’s just fine. When you first start driving there is a ton of beeping but it’s parking sensors. Then once you turn those off it’s fine. After a while you learn to turn off the parking sensors and deactivate the auto start stop as you get going. Then from that point you can drive like normal with no interruption. The haptic buttons are weird but I rarely have a reason to use them.
