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FORMULA 1 PIRELLI GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2023 - Montreal....Race.... ▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀

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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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  2. jpalmito

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  3. DF1

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  4. steved033

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    I think the best part of Merc doing better is we can renew the MAX hates HAM duels...
     
  5. DF1

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    FIA revises Montreal ‘s Turn 1 barrier after F1 driver complaints
    The FIA has revised an earlier change to the barriers at Montreal’s first corner ahead of Sunday’s Formula 1 Canadian Grand Prix following consultation with the drivers.

    By:Adam Cooper
    Jun 18, 2023 at 10:12 AM
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    In previous years, drivers overshooting Turn 1 could return to the track beyond Turn 2 and blend into traffic relatively safely.

    However, for this year’s GP weekend, the FIA extended the end of the barrier to stop cars that were out of control, potentially due to mechanical failures, from spearing across into traffic that was exiting Turn 2.

    As a result of the change, drivers who ran wide had a choice of either bouncing across the grass, going around the new barrier and taking a hard turn to the right onto the track, or in effect doing a U-turn in the run-off, heading back towards the traffic, and then turning right onto the track.

    Both options were used on Friday and in the evening’s drivers briefing the subject was discussed at length, with Lewis Hamilton apparently pointing out that he’d never seen a car have the type of accident that the barrier extension was designed to prevent.

    A removal of the new section was discussed but the barrier remained in place for Saturday’s track action, when there were more incidents at the corner.

    However it has been adjusted for Sunday, with the final 4m removed to make it easier for drivers to rejoin the track safely and further up the track from Turn 2.
     
  6. steved033

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    "Both options were used on Friday and in the evening’s drivers briefing the subject was discussed at length, with Lewis Hamilton apparently pointing out that he’d never seen a car have the type of accident that the barrier extension was designed to prevent."

    Now he's jinxed it....let's see...he's 3rd...albon is 9th....factor velocity...carry the 1...

    sjd
     
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  7. jgonzalesm6

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    And remember nothing is the 44s fault man.
     
  9. sp1der

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    Ferrari will be double dnf today the team is an utter shambles.
     
  10. Nurburgringer

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    Besides Ferrari's depressingly low starting (and likely finishing) position, I'm psyched for the Alonso-Hamilton battle.
    Would be nice if either could at least pressure Max after the start but that's surely too much to hope for.
     
  11. DF1

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    Always the tyres lol - Advantage FA possibly??

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mercedes-a-potential-strategy-outlier-as-f1-tyre-sets-returned/10484688/

    Mercedes a potential F1 strategy outlier as Canadian GP tyre sets returned
    Mercedes has been left a tyre outlier at the front of the Formula 1 grid, with it locked into a potentially different strategy approach at the Canadian Grand Prix.
    By: Jonathan Noble
    Jun 18, 2023, 3:18 PM

    The disrupted weekend at Montreal, with FP1 effectively wiped out by CCTV problems and rain impacting Saturday’s running, has left teams facing more uncertainties on strategy.

    It has, however, triggered greater freedom on tyre choice management throughout the event as teams have not needed to preserve race sets as much as they would at a more normal event.

    But as the tyre choices of the top teams emerged on Sunday morning, it has been interesting to note that Mercedes has joined Ferrari as the only squad to leave both its drivers with just one set of hards for the race.

    Among the top six runners, Max Verstappen, Fernando Alonso, Nico Hulkenberg, and Esteban Ocon all have two sets of new hards and two sets of new mediums available.

    Starting on the second row, Lewis Hamilton and George Russell have only one set of new hards available alongside their two sets of mediums.

    This option is especially intriguing because Pirelli’s head of F1, Mario Isola, says his company’s prediction remains that the best approach to the race is a two-stop race, starting on mediums and then going for two stints on the hard.

    Isola said: “Looking at the simulation and the data collected on Friday, we believe that the strategies as predicted before coming here are still valid.

    “That is a start on the medium compound and a move then to the hard compound. Then finally a second set on the hard compound.”

    That two-stop approach is something that Mercedes will not have the option of going for, as it will be locked in to only one stint on the hard.

    It effectively means that it will either have to go for a one-stop, potentially medium to hard, or trying a two-stop that involves going back to the medium for the final stint.

    Isola added: “An alternative strategy, maybe for people starting from the back of the grid, is beginning on the hard, and moving to the medium. So after around 45 laps, they move on the medium.

    “That would obviously be with a lighter car because in practice, don't forget, with the medium we had some graining.

    “That is still possible [to happen], especially after Saturday, with a completely green track and no rubber down. It is possible that we have dry conditions but still graining from the medium, while the hard is a lot more consistent.

    “The other way is a two-stop. If they don't have a second set of hards, they could be starting on the medium, moving to the hard for the second stint and back to the medium for the last stint.

    “The soft is not really a compound for the race. We know that too from last year.”
     
  12. tonyc

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    I hope not, they need to just copy what merc or red bull does. Leclerc seems to be at the end of his patience with the team making bad calls. I remember the winning years, now I just want them to not make bad calls.
     
  13. jgonzalesm6

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    Rosso is deep on the grid.... this year is not working....
     
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    What time is ‘lights out”? Local tv is preempting coverage with severe weather reports.
     
  16. Hawkeye

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    Great to see Mr. Ferrari on the grid, he's a wonderful man.
     
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    Leclerc's car on the grid and on the stilts. Damage to the plank.
     
  18. gh0st0

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    should be a interesting race with the grid mix up?
     
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  19. GuyIncognito

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    we can hope so
     
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  20. william

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    Call a carpenter !! But not on a Sunday ... :p
     
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  21. subirg

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    Unless Max gets nerfed on lap 1, it’s game over and the usual RB cruise to imperious victory.

    If Ferrari score points it will be against the wishes of the strategy team who are completely incompetent and determined to kill off all prospects. I would not be surprised if those clowns call both drivers in and put on extreme wets… during dry running.
     
  22. william

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    It's to give us a taste of what reverse grid could be !! ;)
     
  23. USMCS6

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    Road America Indy car has been a mix if indy car and baja 500. Really good racing.
     
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    I'll have to catch up with that later....was rocking along on a landscaping project here till the rototiller decided to have no drive...
     
  25. furoni

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    how was charles car ****ed up before the race even starts...???
     

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