FORMULA 1 PIRELLI GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2023 - Montreal....Race.... ▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀

Alonso had to brake. Thats always been the slam dunk regulation.

 

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The bird that max hit early in his stint...I knew we where told end of the race there was a bit of bird he carried with him but not the whole thing!

I think he could've gone a lot faster as brake temp would've been insane in the right front

 

There usually are too many penalties, except for Mercedes. They seem to be exempt from any.

 

Bas, for them the only thhink that makes sense is Elton wining....I alsom believed it was wrong, but when i saw they were able to pull the necessary gap to the guy behind, i knew it was correct....Ravin made his calculation correctly, he knew the Ferraris had a lot of pace.

 

Had to? I don't think so. He didn't have to swerve either ;->

 

+1 he is a savvy fox. He knows the camera shows wheel movement. He barely protested lol. It was nothing and do you think others would not do the same. Operative was 'unsafe' . It wasnt. Again complaining about too many and complaining a driver well hated here didnt get one. This is a joke. F1 moved on pretty quickly as did Aston lol. No protest nothing as there are no grounds. What if that had been a RedBull eh?

 

Another funny thing, during the race there was discussion with Alonso about fuel saving (lift and coast) yet after the race when asked about brake damage ALO claimed they didn't tell him if anything was wrong with the car. Like when Norris asked why he had a penalty they didn't tell him, and said they'd discuss after the race. I know part of all this mystery is not sharing all your secrets on the public radio, but it just seems odd you don't tell the driver what's going on. Maybe they need a super-secret-double-probation radio channel for private discussions.

 

I've seen penalties for a lot less.

 

"Sainz will not attack you" - 'superiority' is nothing without team orders

 

Made that way

 

I spy with my little eye..................both Mercedes ran with different front wing setups during the race.

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Tire degredation between hard and medium compounds.....the medium was the optimum tire and lasted just as long.

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Well that explains it all, toto removed a bit of wing from boy george in order for him to crash and make elton look good

 

Two things we now have for granted in 2023 f.1 season. Max wins, sainz ends 5th!....good news, we still haven't figured out the rest!

 

Boring race.

 

I just heard that it was Charles decision not to enter the pits when the safery car apeared, Xavi called him to box on that lap and he refused.

 

Yes, if you are only doing 30 laps, no if you are doing 40 laps.

 

Maybe that was the only wing they had left setup for George's car.

 

Russell didn't like his, he adjusted it half way through

 

I nodded-off---twice.

 

As if there was a thing called "attack" in Sainz arsenal. Team orders were mainly to preserve tires and not eff up points once again. Even if Sainz had pushed like crazy to get in Lec's drs, there was 0% chance to try an overtake, the drs's trains proved it.
And yes Leclerc is superior to Sainz in every possible way, just take the L

 

Say what you like about Sainz but he's very consistent.

2021 - more points and 4x more podiums than Leclec
2023 - ahead in points at current standings.

 

Yes - Charles faster and Carlos a bit more consistent overall.

 

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclaren-fears-norris-a-victim-of-new-fia-precedent-after-canada-f1-penalty/10485371/

McLaren fears Norris a victim of new FIA precedent after Canada F1 penalty
McLaren Formula 1 boss Andrea Stella believes that the penalty applied to Lando Norris in the Canadian Grand Prix reflects a “new reference” from the FIA for such situations.

By: Adam Cooper
Jun 20, 2023, 11:12 AM

Stella said the team was “very surprised” that Norris was penalised for unsportsmanlike behaviour after being deemed to have created a gap to his team-mate Oscar Piastri prior to a double-stacked pit stop.

Norris was running behind the Australian when a safety car triggered by George Russell’s accident gave drivers an opportunity to make cheap stops. McLaren duly decided to double stack and pit both cars on the same lap.

The rules explicitly prevent drivers from going too slowly in the pit lane in order to create a gap if they are double stacking behind their team-mate.

However in this case Norris was reported for going too slowly on the track on the run from the hairpin back to the pit entry, thus holding up Alex Albon, who was just behind him and also intending to stop.

In their investigation, the stewards took note of McLaren’s radio traffic. While there was no smoking gun in terms of Norris being told directly to back off, it was deemed that the team had in effect given enough information, including the time gap to Piastri, for Norris to know what he had to do.

Norris was told “Lando, safety car, safety car. You are the second car, you are the second car. Oscar three.”

The stewards had the option to invoke the driving unnecessarily slowly rule, but instead, they referenced the International Sporting Code and the section that reads “any infringement of the principles of fairness in competition, behaviour in an unsportsmanlike manner or attempt to influence the results of a competition, in a way that is contrary to sporting ethics”.

They decided to hand Norris a five-second penalty that ultimately proved very expensive as it dropped him from ninth on the road to 13th in the final classification.

McLaren believes that the use of the words 'unsportsmanlike behaviour' – a phrase that has rarely been invoked in F1 other than in the context of black and white warning flags during races – suggests that the FIA wants to set a new reference for situations such as double-stacking.

“In reality, we went and spoke to the stewards right after the race because we thought these kinds of speeds under a safety car or even a virtual safety car shouldn't be a reasonable infringement,” Stella said.

“There's a possibility that the stewards want to set new references. We carry on discussing with them.

 

The past few years it seems F1 is about everything other than actual racing. This season has been I've been the least engaged as I've ever been.