SF 90 XX

Yes I total agree with the rough finish.
I will be surprised if they offer full exposed Carbon. More likely just selected areas shown such as the roof etc.

 

I will be shocked if this is true. Expect prices to go up and up. Period.
What limited FCAR didn’t go up ? 16m is “worst” performing price wise.

We will see.

 

It’s a good question, I think it can be done (with expense) aftermarket? There was an exposed cf Enzo that sold for a premium if I remember correctly so it’s clearly (no pun intended) desirable to buyers !

 

oh wow, very interesting!

even amongst an already exclusive car there is a further level of exclusivity- annoying for those excluded as the cf option will affect weight and dynamics

 

I really wish so too. Base price will matter alot I guess


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the v6 of the 296 have 228hp/liter and it's not pushed to its limit. Novitec and other tuners easily achieved over 1100hp on the sf90..

 

the 765lt has been tested on the dyno several times and reachs about 750/760 hp at the wheel, which means over 850 at the crank. So I have to think that the v8 of the sf90 (780hp) is inferior...

 

the engine is so costly that it sank the mclaren

 

I doubt a Novitec SF90 pushed to 1100hp would be road legal though. Just emissions (with 200cel cat, or even decat) and noise would be a massive constraint. Then yes indeed, you can boost turbo pressure like on the 488/F8, but the number of broken turbos on tuned 488s shows it comes at the expense of reliability. Not something we would accept from a manufacturer.

 

Very few Sennas are spec’d with the full carbon. We have one. I wouldn’t again because if you are not a collector but a user, it’s not that practical on track. I planned to do a trackday in it recently but didn’t get to the run in mileage so took the SF instead. I’m kinda glad. It won’t stop me but I don’t want to replace any damaged carbon panels because the price is beyond horrendous. They can be repaired easily enough but still. Our VS will not be exposed carbon.

 

So you think adding a tune to get another 150bhp is trying hard but massive added aero (which means totally different chassis), a new braking system, different seats, lower weight, full carbon body and much reduced lap time is being lazy?

 

the back will be like the combination of huracan tecnica and chiron super sport

 

the group of engineers that deals with the engine is not the one that deals with the chassis, aerodynamics, brakes etc. So yes, if the powertrain group managed to get only extra 30hp more from the ICE they have taken it more than easy. Mclaren reached 1050hp eons ago...

 

i do not agree, i was at Rimac Headquarter and it is impressive what progress in batterie departement are made over the last years.
Lets say it simple, batteries are like the ingridients of Coca-cola, everybody knows it, but the details is in the prescritpion, assambly of the batteries.
I am sure, Ferrari with its know how from F1 departement, could easly produce in 4 years a more lighter denser batterie, wich helps do produce the full potential of
the sf90 elec motors, if they want so..

 

That’s not correct IMO. Significantly better battery technology needs new chemistry and all the battery manufacturers know it and are working on it. For example solid state. Until that time, current battery technology has plateaued. I suppose the only thing you can do is use more expensive materials to lighten the casing (which is where the weight comes from) but that will still be manufactured by people like CATL or BYD for example, both large Chinese battery conglomerates and basically the best in the world. BYD’s blade technology is how battery companies are innovating; practicality and usability rather than performance. There is no battery industry in Europe to speak of. So it’s also incorrect to think Europe can do it better than China and the far east. Lighter casing also has potential safety implications, especially in a supercar application. Maybe that will be the learning from the Titan disaster. Sometimes the cutting edge is too sharp.

Often battery manufacturers choose now to use less efficient battery solutions for environmental reasons and because rate earth materials, while more efficient, are harder to get hold of and less sustainable.

 

While that may be true, everything is linked. The power train impacts the other items significantly. When you drive the SF90 on track, the very last thing it needs is more power. The standard car is already too much. The extra power they choose is simple optics. The real move forward is in how you get the car around the track quicker. That’s why aero and brakes. This will not be a low-effort car.

 

Public release will be 28th.

 

Tuners don't have to worry about emissions, longevity or drivability.

First of all, we always go by the factory stated numbers. Secondly, rolling road dynos can show whatever they are set up to show. Even two identical rolling roads can show vastly different numbers. Only bench dynos (real dynos) can be trusted 100% and of course when they are probably calibrated. Thirdly and most importantly, the McLaren is very boosty, at the expense of linearity. Ferrari want their turbocharged engines to feel like naturally aspirated ones. The Ferrari V8 is much more complex than you think.

 

sf90vs has racing wheel

 

Since you seem ro have good info, may I kindly ask about downforce kg at certain speed?

 

Agree on everything.
Most internet informations are created mainly for teenagers.

 

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leaked steering wheel

 

What are racing wherls?
Tyres Cup 2Rnprobably
Rims, Carbon is an option, Magnesium standart?

What exaxtly are racing wheels? Slicks? Not road legal..