Musee de l'Automobile Mougins Nice visit 1989

13211 a QM.
13212 a Dino 308 GT4.
13213 a Daytona.

Marcel Massini

 

I guess I’ll never understand Ferrari chassis numbering protocol.

 

Does anyone know what became of the 156B/ Aero F1 #0002?

 

what is it?

 

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It's in the Carlo Biscaretti di Ruffia Museum, now the MAUTO Museum in Turin, Italy, since almost 60 years. It was a gift from the factory to the museum.

Marcel Massini

 

The original poster said the 1963 156 F1 in the Mougins Museum was #0002. I assume its not the Biscaretti car, may not even be #0002 but whatever it is I wonder what happened to it. I know another car is in the Schlumpf collection, another in the Barber collection and a third in the Biscaretti but still these are rare as the proverbial hens teeth and I was unaware of any 156/ 158/ 1512 in the Mougins collection!

 

The 156 B F1 1963 in the Schlumpf Collection in Mulhouse, France, is #0004.
The Schlumpf collection received 0004 on 26 March 1965.
I took some of the below pix almost 40 years ago in Mulhouse.

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Here's 0004 at Retromobile Paris 2017, on loan from the Schlumpf Museum.

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So a quick run down on the 1,5 litre cars

#0001 - 0007 (1961 156) - all scrapped (some engines and parts retained and reused)
#0008 (156/62) - scrapped
#0009 (156/62) - scrapped
#0001 (156/63) - scrapped?
#0002 (156/63) - Mougins Museum car?
#0003 (156/63) - scrapped?
#0004 (156 Aero) - Schlumpf collection car
#0005 (156 Aero/ 158 F1) - Biscaretti Museo car?
#0006 (158 F1) - Barber Collection
#0007 (1512 F1) - Surtees car, sold by Brooks at their 1990 Monaco auction, where is this car today?
#0008 (1512 F1) - Chinetti/ NART car, sold by Christies to Auriana in '05, recently raced
#0009 (1512 F1) - Jacques Setton car, since sold to unknown and shown at Retromobile in '17, where is this car today?

 

which one does Glickenhaus own?

 

He does not own an F1 car.

 

I don't know if the museum in Mougins changed its name at some point, but when I made a visit in 1998 it was called Musee de l'automobiliste. Nice ornament at the entry
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1512 F1 #0007 sold by Brooks to Albert Obrist. It later went to Bernie Ecclestone in UK.
Still there.

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Agreed - I was trying to make sense of the initial post (https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/148253361/) that stated that the museum had passed out a "folder accompanying the exhibit" that claimed a different (and unlikely) chassis number, for what appears to be that same car (13213).

If it was just a visitor, it would be easy to dismiss as a simple confusion - but it gives me pause if supposedly the curators published the information.

 

Which one did Monte Shalett have?

Sorry not to see you at the Coppet concours.

 

0008.
It was together with the Breadvan at Christie's Monterey 2005.

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