Ferrari Sport Cars Thread

0276 MM:
Clearly MOTTO.
Note the right part of the script which is clearly smaller ("orino" writing is less high), also the underline and the very special letter "M".

Not Morelli.

Marcel Massini

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Very clear ! It’s true some Motto spiders like Ermini have a similar design. Thank you very much Marcel !

 

0276 MM:
Below is the scan of the upper half of the Italian road registration doc for 0276 MM and Italian plates Milan "MI 220258".
On the left, marked in red, it states "Carrozzeria Berlina".
Berlina is a closed car, not a Spider, not an open car.

Marcel Massini

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Great doc Marcel, thanks again !
Does it mean 0276MM was a berlina on 12 March 1953 only or also on 25 July 1953 ?
If we agree 0276MM was the Motto spyder at GP dell’Autodromo on 29 June 1953, berlina doesn’t match with the spider body of the car.
Also no PF job number for 0276MM so difficult to think it could be a PF berlinetta orignally.
So your doc refers to a Vignale coupe ?

 

The factory certificate of origin was issued 14 March 1953.
At the time it was described as Berlina (= closed car).
This ACI PRA doc does not state the name of the coachbuilder.
The license plate MI 220258 was issued 25 July 1953. Based on the certificate of origin.

Marcel Massini

 

Thanks Marcel. Then Berlina only on 14 March 1953.
Very curious to know the coachbuilder !

 

How reliable is a document stating seating arrangement of 5/6? That usually means a 2+3 seating arrangement with sofas front and back, with 6th passenger temporarily allowed on front seat. Sounds more like a B22 Aurelia, and co-incidentally the space for "tipo/serie" was started with a B... then corrected. Must have been a busy day at the office with papers flying around!

 

Another question : if 0276MM had been crashed at Giro di Sicilia on 12 April 1953, did they have time to take the car at Motto, remove the « berlina » body and put a brand new spider body just in time to the Gran Premio dell’Autodromo on 29 June 1953 ?

 

Please allow me to suggest that you spend a bit more time studying and analyzing such documents before you write such comments.
I own more than 8'000 (eight thousand) such documents for Ferraris in Italy and consider myself a bit experienced in this area, interpreting what happened 70 years ago and in pre-computer times.
The corrected letter "B" could possibly have been the start of the word "Berlina" (in the area "Tipo e Serie") but the writer started two lines too high, quickly realised and corrected it.
Back then in 1953 people were still human beings and not as perfect as they are now in your area of the world.

Marcel Massini

 

Absolutely yes.
More than two full months time, enough to hand build new coachwork.
I know from Brandoli and Scaglietti that in some cases they only needed a week or so to build an entire new body after a crash.
These wonderful Modenese artisans used to work not just 6 or 7 hours a day but oftentimes worked also during nights and well into early mornings.

Marcel Massini

 

When technical specialist Aldo Bertani was sent over by Ferrari factory to take care of Askolin cars in 1958 he said that normal time windows for building an open racing car body in Italy would be 2-3 weeks.

Here the time window would be 78 days. That would be plenty enough for even getting a new frame prepared and completed!

 

We both know that controversial documents are not worth much unless one can provide supporting material for cross-checking and backing them up - and this has absolutely nothing to do with experience. Unfortunately I see a strong connection between entries "Berlina" and "5/6 posti", especially as they were written consecutively on one and the same row.

As I try to stay on the safe side at all times, the case of 0276MM existing as a completed car before June 1953 cannot be confirmed and the case must remain unresolved. Yes, it's heart-breaking, but crying and stamping one's feet isn't going to help here.

 

Factory build sheets for 0276 MM confirm that it was completed at the factory 28 February 1953.........that's 43 days prior to the start of the XIII Giro di Sicilia (II Targa Stefano La Motta).

Oh, and before you ask, the engine assembly was completed 15 February 1953, the engine was dyno tested 17 February 1953, the gearbox assembly completed 21 February 1953 and the rear axle assembly completed 25 February 1953.

Marcel Massini

 

... and entered into Pinin Farina books on that same date, it seems - two days after 0270MM. Then cancelled. Might as well have been completed as a Motto spider by 14.3.53, we just don't know where it was kept and why.

Easier to live with the uncertainty than make claims that need to be adjusted when more information comes up.

 

Check pages 9 - 11 for a full report on Chiusaforte - Sella Nevea (with more Ferrari entries!)

 

I have to correct my own post #240 because I did not find more Ferrari entries that were not listed already.

However, the car of Enzo Pinzero is listed as "Ferrari 2000" which is the same for Luigi Bosisio. This suggests that Enzo Pinzero was also racing a 166 MM Berlinetta, probably chassis 0022 M.

 

You didn’t tell to us why do you connect 0276MM with #430 at Giro di Sicilia. If you have a pic, who is the coachbuilder ?

 

Barchetta. Björn posted a pic of 0022M in post #204.

 

Ooops...what a silly mistake. Of course 0046 M raced by Luigi Bosisio is a Berlinetta; it seems I just copied that info in my post without checking....

 

Yes. We just need a pic of 0046M at this race now !

 

Re: 0276MM I must add that time window of 28.2.53-14.3.53 = 14 days would be just perfect for constructing an open sports car body, especially so if the Milanese customer was on the phone making sure it will be finished by Friday. Getting doors and windows of a Berlinetta fitted in that time frame would not have been possible, I think.

 

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Coppa della Toscana 31 May 1953

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#853 212 Export Touring Berlinetta Le Mans 0088E Naselli/Naselli 76th (7th GT+2.0)

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#855 212 Inter Pinin Farina Coupe 0245EU Lamberti/Succo 56th (5th GT+2.0)

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#917 166 MM Zagato Berlinetta 0046M Bosisio/xxx 28th (3rd S2.0)

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#922 166 MM/53 Abarth Spyder 0262M Musitelli/xxx DNF (S2.0)

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#928 250 MM Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0256MM Cornacchia/xxx 31st (2nd S+2.0)

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#929 212 Inter Vignale Coupe 0147E Sbraci /xxx 27th (1st S+2.0)

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#933 340(375) MM Vignale Spyder 0286AM Sterzi/Rovelli 6th (2nd S+2.0)

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#939 250 MM Vignale Spyder 0274MM Scotti/Cantini 10th (3rd S+2.0)

 

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Also have this pic of #936 (250 S Vignale Coupe 0156ET) : who were the pilot and copilot ? What was the result ?

 

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Also have a pic of #943. Pretty sure it was Cabianca's 250 MM Vignale Spyder 0282MM but who knows the name of the copilot and the result ? Thanks in advance.

 

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I add a pic of #86 212 Inter Vignale coupe of Cornacchia (s/n 0237EU) from the excellent book "Trieste-Opicina sessant'anni di epopea", Legenda - Edizioni dell'Opificio