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  1. versamil

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    It's interesting that with all the cars you've owned and driven, you've gone to a 328. While I've enjoyed a lot of different cars, I've continuously kept a 3 --series car for 40 years. Didn't you buy an Alfa 4C not too long ago? It's gone and this is taking over it's spot?
     
  2. fatbillybob

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    Congrats bob!
     
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  3. Shark01

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    Congrats Mr D,

    A 328 seems like it would be a nice place to be as far as a classic Ferrari. Not too expensive, relatively easy to fix ( not much to break), probably has a nice steering feel with some weight to it. Not buying the AC is OK though in Vegas or where I live in Houston …..LOL.

    During the Summer, I can only drive the Diablo Roadster in the late evening, trying to out run the mosquitoes.
     
  4. TheMayor

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    The problem with the 4c was Alfa service. Actually my last F car was a 458 spider.

    I wanted a manual car. Looked at a 360 spider but decided to try to keep one more 80's car alive and kicking.
     
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  5. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    That's why I keep my 550 maranello plus it is higher off the ground like a normal passenger car so my old body can get in and out. In my old age comfort is as important as performance.
     
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  6. versamil

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    Didn't you also buy a new Corvette a year or two ago? A really wide range of cars in your life, and you go back to a 328. While the 458 has paddle shifters, hard to not love the surge in speed and power that engine provides, with the instant shifting. It will be interesting to see how long you're happy with the 328. They ARE a car that has aged really well. It's such a good looking car.
     
  7. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    I still have the C8 convertible. Its my daily driver.

    I can't tell you how many Alfa's I've owned. I've forgotten!
     
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  8. Ferraripilot

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    This thread makes me smile every time I see it. Thank you for your enthusiasm!
     
  9. TheMayor

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    Took it out for an early morning run with the roof off.

    Lost the AC somehow. Probably out of gas. Another thing for the dealer to look at. It was working but just quit blowing cold air or turning on the compressor. The fan works. Even with no AC at about 90 deg outside it wasn't uncomfortable to drive around. Over 100? Yah that's too much!

    I thought I smelled coolant at a stop light but I don't see anything. Maybe my imagination, maybe the overflow tank venting. There's no steam and the temp gauges all seem to work normally. Anyone ever think they smelled coolant and it wasn't anything?
     
  10. bitsobrits

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    Car in front of or behind you?
     
  11. TheMayor

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    #36 TheMayor, Jul 5, 2023
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    There was no one in front of me but there was someone to my left. No one was behind me for some time. It wasn't a strong smell but it did smell like coolant.

    I checked under the hood and I don't smell anything, There's no coolant on the floor. There's a small what appears to be oil leak near the front side of the driver's rear fender. Not brake fluid, not sure what it is. Might be some gearbox oil. Can't really smell what it is. Have to check it out as well.
     
  12. TheMayor

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    #37 TheMayor, Jul 22, 2023
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    Been driving it a bit now that its legal. Drove it down the Vegas Strip this morning checking out the track. The way this season is going I think my car is faster....

    It sure is fun to drive. Love the steering feedback. Its over 100 degrees and all the temps are perfect. No issues with hot start wither. Whatever that coolant smell was it wasn't my car.

    There are some sounds that are completely unique to the 3 series cars -- like the door closing sound and the seat adjustment. You hear that and you don't even need to look at what kind of car it is.

     
  13. Jack-the-lad

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    Who was your shipper? Were you happy with them?
     
  14. TheMayor

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    Plycar. Very happy. Used them twice now. Was recommended by Criswell when I bought the C8 out of Maryland.
     
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  15. Albert-LP

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    328 is the most reliable Ferrari ever built and one of the best looking ever too

    Congrats for the purchase and nice thread

    Ciao
     
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  16. rob

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    Thanks for the ride!
     
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  17. TheMayor

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    #42 TheMayor, Sep 4, 2023
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    So I thought after a few months of ownership I'd give a bit of a review. Its weird reviewing a car that is nearly 40 years old but compared to modern cars, its a completely different driving experience.

    First, this car does take some getting used to. You don't just get in one for the first time and expect to drive it well. There's a learning curve of how to start and warm it up (and why), how the brakes break, where the clutch friction point is, how to blip and rev match the throttle, and how much effort to move the gear lever. The offset position of the pedals and the tiny footbox. Once mastered, its so enjoyable. Until then you might wonder "what the heck is this???"

    Second, it takes some work to drive this car. You're going to get a bit of a workout. There's no power steering so parking is a chore. The gear lever takes some muscle to move. The clutch pedal takes some effort. If you're in stop and go traffic you'll be doing a bit of cardio.

    Third, the ride quality is shocking good. Ok, you hit a bump in the road and you'll get a jolt. But it normally just glides over the surface but in a good way. The steering feel is excellent. Once you get used to how it feels at different speeds you can tell exactly what the front wheels are doing.

    Fourth: DRAMA. This car is loaded with DRAMA. The small size, the weird Italian driving position, the open sky of the removed targa with the feeling your head is poking out the top of the car, the engine noise, and the "clank clank" sound and feel of the gear lever along with that sensation of the gear engaged. That high pitched two tone horn sound. Modern cars just don't have this drama unless they build it in artificially.

    Fifth: Its fast enough, particularly for city driving. Despite modern cars being "faster" this car is certainly no slouch on the road with other cars. Does it need more power? Maybe but I don't think it would be anymore fun.

    Sixth: Its actually quite comfortable inside. The seats (at least for me) are great. Its easier to get in and out of than my C8 Corvette. Visibility all around is terrific. No blind spots.

    Seventh: Its "just plain beautiful". Few modern cars look as good. The response people give it are amazing.

    Eighth: Satisfaction. When you downshift and rev match perfectly (which you don't do every time). When you snap it quickly up through the gearbox. When you feel the road grip through the steering wheel going through a corner. Its fantastically analogue. Everything today is made up and not nearly as good.

    Ninth: Yes, its a PITA at time. Taking off, putting on, and storing the Targa makes you work muscles you don't normally use. You WILL look awkward. Get used to it. If you don't pay attention to how you are shifting the gearbox will give you a grinding noise worse than any warning buzzer you've even heard. The windows go up slowly. The turn indicator lights are only visible at night. The headlights "work" but aren't much good. I put in an aftermarket "between seat cushion" cup holder for my morning coffee run. --And climate control? What is that?

    Its not for everyone but those who own and drive one will understand this: Ferrari may have not known it at the time but they built a masterpiece. Few cars have given me this much enjoyment.
     
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  18. jimpo1

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    You summed up the car well!
     
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  19. Sergio Tavares

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    Dan Tana !

    When will you video of the desert?

     
  20. Brian A

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    Your enthusiasm is contagious!
     
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  21. audi_328

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    My user name has 328 in it because it’s one of my favorite Ferraris; I’ve never driven one, but years ago caught some spirited rides in a couple, and I always figured a 328 would be my first Ferrari. Almost bought one when you could get a nice one for $35k, but my future ex-wife said we needed back seats for when we had kids, so I bought a 911 Carrera 3.2 (also a great car IMO).

    By the time I could swing that 328 (in 2017) they cost as much as a nice 355, so I went that route. No regrets on the 355, it’s a fantastic Ferrari in many ways, but deep down I still really, really want a 328…your review a few posts back really drives that home to me.

    Signed,
    A little jealous in NH.
     
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  22. Zanny1

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    Same here..... go for a drive as soon as the sun is up.
    Love the 328. What a timeless beauty.

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  23. Sergio Tavares

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    This post is useless without more video
     
  24. peterp

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    The solution here, in my opinion, would be to get a Mondial 3.2, which is largely a mechanical twin of the 328. Heavier and slightly less sporty than the 328, but more comfortable and practical. Mondials have come up in price also, but are still more affordable than the 328. Mondials have a bad reputation from the first model (Mondial 8), which was slow and had electrical issues, but the later models (QV, 3.2, t) are excellent. The 3.2 is the best of the Mondial models in my opinion, for the same reason the 328 is the best -- it's the perfect blend of modern performance/reliability while still being very simple cars. The Mondial t and 348 are faster and have active suspension, but I just like the 328/3.2 better. The "t" also got rid of the fender flairs and has smaller side intakes (which could be an aesthetic step forward or backward depending on your preferences).

    I owned Carrera 3.2 at the same time I owned the Mondial 3.2. To be honest, the Porsche practically got zero driving time. The Carrera was a great car, but the Mondial 3.2 was just so much more visceral and raw to drive that I almost never drove the Porsche (and it felt subdued and tame comparatively when I did). The clinking of the shift gates and the perfect exhaust sound, and that 3.2 V8 is a jewel (everything in the Mayor's posts applies). The Mondial 3.2 is still refined enough to drive often -- I drove it daily in heavy-ish city traffic for quite a while. The Mondial is more practical than the Porsche -- the trunk and rear seats are much bigger than the Carrera (though you have to move the seats forward if your rear-seat Mondial passengers happen to have legs :)).

    Life is short. Go for it. I chose the Mondial over the 328 back then because I had my very young (at the time) son in the car seat in back all the time when going to car shows. If I had garage room for one today, no longer having the rear seat requirement, I'd still be equally with either a 328 or a Mondial 3.2 (for slightly different reasons).
     
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  25. 2cam

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    I've had a 3.2 Mondial Coupe for the last 5 years. Largely bought for the same reasons - a back seat for the kiddos (who are now both too big and surly to want to sit in the back). I'd had a series of air-cooled 911s prior and a 3.2 Carrera when I bought the Mondial. The plan was to keep both. However, after driving the Mondial for a couple of months, I decided that I just didn't need the 911. The Mondial far exceeded my expectations and was exactly what I was looking for in a fun, classic car. Distinctive, rare (one of less than 100 3.2 Coupes brought to the US), engaging, and just fast enough to be entertaining. It's far from perfect but perfect. I see it as the 4-seat 328.

    2cam
     
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