Wearing woman panties would actually be an upgrade from some of the creations he dares to wear sometimes. But to each their own and all that. As you said I don't really care about that, I find his racing more interesting anyway.
My Iphone at 5:45 Mon.-Fri. I like the radar tone. Thank you for asking. How do you like to get woke?
No one could deny that Lewis is a great driver. I just don’t like him as a public personality for good reasons.
No problem with that. I know people who hate multiple champions. Alonso, Senna, Max, Schumi. Hamilton is not immune. It's nothing new.
I’m just having some fun. First post was sponsored by “Don Julio”. Then I was just trying to be witty after that. Been reading this board for years and appreciate all the banter and knowledge you all provide. Been an F1 fan since the late 70’s and trying to figure a way to join the conversation.
Hating is a big word, but often a different personality brushes some people the wrong way. My appreciation of drivers is strictly based on their track behaviour, and not much else. Regardless of their talent, there are 2 drivers I couldn't stand for their excessive aggressivity: Senna and Schumacher.
Agreed. First Senna then Schumacher introduced a level of aggression that was flat out not sporting. Their win at ALL costs mentality tainted junior racing for a long time until the FIA really started clamping down on it and it is now very much in the past. From my perspective that was a time when things got out of hand and it has nothing to do with being too soft or weak. I believe in the ethics of competition as epitomized by drivers like Fangio, Stewart, and Hakkinen to name a few.
Actually, several (they know who they are) HAVE denied (and continue to deny) that Lewis is a great driver. "Hamilton deserves more respect" is the title of the thread and shows how this very vocal minority of "experts" whine about everything involving Lewis..."he's lucky", "anyone could win in that car", "have you seen his clothes?", basically anything to do with him. This group is like the guys who say the Beatles are overrated... That is my only issue with this thread.
Same for me. And if you defend Hamilton as a driver, you soon get labelled as fanboy by folks who don't like his persona. I am really totally oblivious of everything outside of racing; it's of no interest to me, but some bring that up all the time.
“The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.” F. Scott Fitzgerald I can accept that Hamilton is a great driver while at the same time not liking his wokeness. Others seem to struggle to separate the two.
Others (me included) dispute that Hamilton is a great driver. Personally I think that he had a huge benefit in having a dominant car for most of his career. This is discussed here already endlessly. With regard to all personality issues (wokeness, life style, whatever) there might be: most of these are in his private life which does not concern / interest me at all. But part of the personality issues also show up during races (whining, blaming others) and therefore cannot completely be separated from his driving.
Senna’s agression on Prost at Suzuka 1990 is one of the most shameful things I have ever seen in this sport.
D'une voix blanche, Alain Prost répond aux journalistes qui se pressent pour savoir comment il encaisse cette « défaite par K.O. ». Le Français ne cache pas sa colère et son émotion: « Senna savait que ma voiture était supérieure à la sienne en conditions de course. Il savait que si je partais en tête, sa partie était perdue. Il a donc choisi la solution de facilité en me sortant. Je ne crois pas que ce soit une vengeance de 89. On ne peut pas discuter avec un type comme ça. On ne peut pas lutter, parce qu'on ne possède pas les mêmes valeurs, la même logique. Senna montrait au monde un visage qui n'était pas le sien. Aujourd'hui, chacun a pu voir sa vraie nature. Il y avait deux façons de perdre le championnat, la bonne, sportive, en acceptant sa défaite, et l'autre. Il a gagné son titre de la manière la plus dégueulasse qui soit. Malheureusement, ni moi ni Ferrari ne voulons accepter ce genre de jeu. Senna n'a aucun esprit sportif. Pour lui, la F1, c'est la guerre. Gagner ou mourir. Cela me rappelle assez bien ce qui se passe actuellement dans certains pays islamiques... La mort y est un jeu. »
“The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.” F. Scott Fitzgerald An important point ^^ lost on many. All too often, you just can't separate the personality from the driving. In addition to the incessant whining and blaming you've mentioned, there's the air of entitlement that also permeates his driving ... entitled to any line through any corner, with zero regard for other drivers alongside or ahead. It is very possible to be a very talented driver, while at the same time be a very dangerous driver. I can surely hold those two ideas in my mind at the same time but apparently many can't.
Just in case you question why Alain Prost is my favourite driver; his dignified attitude that day was worth far more to me than his 4 titles. He displayed at that occasion a sense of chivalry and sportmanship that has now totally deserted F1.
...and that's why these three, with some others (anybody remembers Jim Clark, for instance? Stirling Moss? Etc...) were the true greats. The yardstick to which all others should be compared. Et cetera... I always admired, and will always admire, Senna's speed, but the man was deeply flawed in his values: dishonest and two-faced. But perhaps this is a trend of our times. Rgds
Read my earlier posts in this thread. This was discussed before ad nauseam. No need to repeat that discussion here for the umpteenth time.
