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  1. ohno

    ohno Formula Junior

    Sep 10, 2009
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    The KC23 has definitely the new design direction of the Ferrari Centro Stile, which was introduced with the Vision Gran Turismo concept in late 2022.
    Look at the front of the KC23 which i´ve modified a bit in the direction of a modern look of a 365 GTB/4 Daytona...
    @day355: Would you say the F167 has design elements of the new language?

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  2. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

    Jun 5, 2009
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    More the F250 I would say ..
     
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  3. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

    Oct 1, 2004
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    probably different, because F167 is to have front hinged bonnet...
     
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  4. JagShergill

    JagShergill Formula 3

    Dec 31, 2014
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    Fwiw , I love the 812 variants ( stupidly owned all 3 (SF/GTS/Comp) , the 599 ( stupidly had 3 - GTO, GTB,Alonso 60F1) and much prefer my TDF to the 599 and 812 variants …. The looks , the vibe , the tactile visceral grunt , the sound , the grin generating drives and the sheer presence both visually and aurally in the cabin means the TDF ethos for me would be the ideal basis for the F167. However , the legislation and the new design language across the Manzoni range means that il desire the smoother more elegant lines of the F167, but Il lust after the TDF, as the illicit naughty date night rendezvous ….. oooops got carried away there ! The F167 may be the newest and most advanced , but not the next best thing . I’m not in a hurry to dive into the new GT- at the moment . I’m however totally self aware that il be mesmerized into a frenzy when it’s announced - that’s just the Ferrarista ‘sheep’ in me - as The Borg say
    “ Resistance is futile “….
     
  5. SirTony76

    SirTony76 Formula Junior

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  6. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    A woman in a bikini G String is a much sexy thought for that shape
     

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  7. 350MH83

    350MH83 Formula 3

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  8. Eilig

    Eilig F1 Rookie
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    Really interesting that you guys have such a problem with female reproductive parts.
     
  9. Hocakes

    Hocakes Formula Junior

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  10. Frank_C

    Frank_C F1 Rookie
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    Well if you look at my location. You will see I am a bushman of the Kalahari….long live 70s porn!


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  11. asdtx

    asdtx Karting

    Jul 7, 2022
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    So when can we expect to see the F167 being announced? I can't wait any longer!!!
     
  12. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    F167 will be 2024 along with the F250
     
  13. asdtx

    asdtx Karting

    Jul 7, 2022
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    First quarter?
     
  14. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

    Jan 13, 2015
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    Bro … it’s legit the last one for regular series production
     
  15. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    Not sure
     
  16. Soleith

    Soleith Karting

    Dec 30, 2020
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    Overheard rumour at Goodwood yesterday that possible November announcement for F167. Low numbers, large cost as expected. Will be similar to Purosangue in terms of availability will be selective. I'm nowhere near a "top" customer but hoping to get a mid to late allocation...

    In the meantime, picking myself up an F12 to make sure I'm in the running. Back to the old discussion... 812 isn't for me, aesthetically I just don't like it. F12 all the way (and hopefully F167!)
     
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  17. asdtx

    asdtx Karting

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    Your mod to the photo looks like the Ferrari Sergio
     
  18. asdtx

    asdtx Karting

    Jul 7, 2022
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    Do you think the price jump will be much more significant from the 812 to the 167 compared to that of the f12 to the 812?
     
  19. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

    Jan 13, 2015
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    I predict base price for F167 will jump to $479,000 usd. Because that’s how much they can easily get away with, without alienating too many potential buyers of a regular series production 812 replacement.
     
  20. SirTony76

    SirTony76 Formula Junior

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    i suspect it will be in the 500's--reason being Revuelto is $585k (allegedly) and they have 2 years of orders already booked, Ferrari won't leave money on the table.
     
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  21. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    Lamborghini V12 production has rarely been more than 50% that of Ferrari, so, it is not an apples-to-apples comparison at all. Plus, even the Aventador had a much higher base than any standard Ferrari V12, completely different customers, probably zero or near zero "cross shopping" between those products.

    And this whole "2 year sold out" on the Revuelto, that might be a 1000 units total or per year for we have no idea what actual production volume will be, based on the Aventador, quite likely to be fewer than 1000 units per year, may, at most 1200. Not hard to sell 2000 of the next gen Aventador...as long as they do not mess it up (VW history with EVs is less than solid)

    Ferrari never leaves money on the table, every one of its cars is destined for $$$ service work in its future...For instance, the F167 will probably have one of those $4K 12v batteries (like the Pista uses) rather than a conventional one in the 812.
     
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  22. asdtx

    asdtx Karting

    Jul 7, 2022
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    Y'all have some interesting perspectives. If they make the 167 a full production car, I agree with @JTSE30 but if it's limited production I see @SirTony76 being correct.
     
  23. Soleith

    Soleith Karting

    Dec 30, 2020
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    My feeling in the UK is that anyone that wants one will need to spec it up to a number starting with a 4. Assuming you're lucky enough to get a chance at an allocation...

    But I'm guessing (on the basis of nothing really) that base car in the UK will be mid to upper 300s.
     
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  24. Solid State

    Solid State F1 World Champ
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    It will definitely follow the same series replacement model. Will have the trick shocks from the SUV, aero items, the latest brakes and steering with new programming, next gen trans/dif with some form of torque vectoring (vectoring-light), lighter engine components, DLC coated internals, higher rev, and at least one new tech item. Not seduced by the pre-release comments of the body design. Gave up on the designer from the beginning. Inspiration by any other name is just copying.
     
  25. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    "some form of torque vectoring"

    Curious how this will be managed on the front wheels without electric motors being used? Brake-based? Seems that is already part of their systems?
     

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