Pics of vintages I find/see on the net.

I think we prefer the original one likewise for the Thomas Crown affair etc but in life sometimes you have to accept that perfection is alas utopian.
My point is LMC is a fabulous event and should be experienced as a whole, same for the Goodwood Revival (not a fan of the festival) for example.

 

The points of view on the 712 CanAm are interesting and both correct to an extent. My understanding is that the original 612 CanAm car (0866) received a 7 litre engine for the last two races of the 1969 season and was designated 712. In 1971 a 512M (1010) was converted to a 7 litre CanAm car and the designation 712CanAm reappeared.

 

merci pour ces précisions.
merci pour ces informations.

 

Chariot a croissants

Back to English.

 

Personally not a fan of any fakes or replicas, but I do think a designation “C” (for Continuation ?) is quite disingenuous and (purposely ?) misleading if a car in fact is a replica. An “R” would seem more accurate, not to mention honest, representation.

 

Is this a PF coupe rebody, if so, what is the SN? Thanks.

john

 

That fake uses number 2423 GT (which originally was a 250 GTE).
It uses the Drogo body coming from 250 GTO #3445 GT (done 1987 for Martin Hilton, job done by Terry Hoyle).

Marcel Massini

 

250 GTE, using 2423 GT.

Marcel Massini

 

16903 in Cernobbio 2023.

Marcel Massini

 

Co-incidentally and entirely irrelevant but I had a very nice chat with Terry Hoyle today. I asked if he was still retired and he said he has five V-12 Ferrari engines in his workshop that he is working on! Just him now though.

 

Thanks for your advice, but you stubborniy refuse to get the point: The only way to be honest in the programme announcements is to give the proper build date, and not to pretend that a car completed (or converted to race specs) in 2020 would be a 1965, even a "C" or "R" are only attempts to disguise the cars’ true histories. In the end dishonest behaviour damages the whole scene. Just my opinion, like it or not. If you find it nit picking I don’t mind.

There is no objection to enjoy this kind of superficial circus maximus, I actually do it sometimes myself with a smile.

m.h.

 

Not that any of it will make a much, if any, difference to me personally, but since we're focusing on "historical" accuracy & authenticity, if this progressively growing acceptance & inclusion of replicas continues, isn't it just a matter of time they will become (if not already ?) regularly displayed at Cavallino, Pebble Beach, etc ?

 

for clarity what do we call a car that say was coupe that had its body changed to a roadster? im thinking early 50’s touring car that became a “little boat”
where a new or original body was used.

 

I think Ferrari’s corporate aversion (to be mild) to replicas would deter Cavallino, given its current ownership’s cozy relationship with the mother ship, from ever admitting replicas or recreations of any type. Certain authentic in-period modifications might be permitted.

 

0665 GT, formerly owned by L.H.

Marcel Massini

 

Uh-oh…….

 

Came across this Swiss beauty on the net
Probably Blu Caracalla or Blu Ortis
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Donor car for some replica?

Marcel Massini

 

That's what I thought too.

 

Let's hope somebody could save her before it's too late. Must be someone looking for a 330 GT 2+2 ?

 

Same car :
https://www.gullwingmotorcars.com/1965-ferrari-330gt-2-2-c-4593.htm