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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #201 jgonzalesm6, Jul 23, 2023
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    #202 jgonzalesm6, Jul 23, 2023
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  3. jpalmito

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    #203 jpalmito, Jul 23, 2023
    Their engine is the best by a substantial margin.
    Best compromise all around.
     
  4. Jeronimo GTO

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    #204 Jeronimo GTO, Jul 23, 2023
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  5. GuyIncognito

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    #205 GuyIncognito, Jul 23, 2023
    imagine if McLaren had stuck with them….
     
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    #206 Javierix, Jul 23, 2023
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    So strategy is overall better this year.

    Drivers are basically the same (downside is no improvement).

    Seems like the biggest issue is the car itself and Ferrari doesn’t seem to have answers there in terms of keeping up with other team upgrades. Whose fault is that? And can it be fixed for next season?

    Should Ferrari throw in the towel at this point for this season, and invest it all on improved car for next season?
     
  7. jgonzalesm6

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    #207 jgonzalesm6, Jul 23, 2023
    I doubt anything would have happened with Mclaren if Honda stuck with them.

    Mclarens ethos is "It's my way or the highway!"
     
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  8. Bas

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    #208 Bas, Jul 23, 2023
    The mistakes he made in his early career are still there.
     
  9. DF1

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    FRA - nice city with a really big airport :)
    #209 DF1, Jul 23, 2023
  10. GuyIncognito

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    #210 GuyIncognito, Jul 23, 2023
    I think they would have not had reached the depths of F1 as they bounced around from Renault to Mercedes

    2nd or 3rd in the constructors standings is much better than 8th or 9th….
     
  11. Vegas CS

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    #211 Vegas CS, Jul 23, 2023
    100% fact. If it’s not the car giving up the ghost, it’s bad strategy. If it’s not bad strategy or the car, the drivers make a mistake. I’m actually happy Ferrari are failing. They do not deserve and have not earned a better position in the constructors standings above 4th or 5th imo. RB and Merc have demonstrated what pinpoint accuracy and professional execution can garner these last 10 yrs or so. C’mon Ferrari! Wake the eff up become the team your founder created!
     
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  12. jpalmito

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    #212 jpalmito, Jul 23, 2023
    Next WEC race ?
     
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    #213 Formula 1, Jul 23, 2023
    Can't wait to see RedBull making road cars...imagine seeing that RedBull logo all chromed out on the back a high end hyper car......WOW!
     
  14. Bas

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    #214 Bas, Jul 23, 2023
    It's engine though. Mercedes, Honda and Ferrari are extremely close in power.

    It's extremely efficient aerodynamics.
     
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    #215 GuyIncognito, Jul 23, 2023
    let’s pray for torrential rain in the Ardennes forest next Sunday…
     
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    #216 Giallo 550, Jul 23, 2023
    Does he actually?
     
  17. jpalmito

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    #217 jpalmito, Jul 23, 2023
    Unfortunately the RB17 will be a track car only..
     
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    #218 Etcetera, Jul 23, 2023
    ^. McLaren would have planked it for sure.
     
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    #219 jpalmito, Jul 23, 2023
    Sure but i suspect Honda developed a very clever Power Unit as a whole..
     
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    #220 Formula 1, Jul 23, 2023
    That car is so sick......they might make a detuned version for the road you never know.
     
  21. jpalmito

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    #221 jpalmito, Jul 23, 2023
    Agree
    Then Max will lap the whole field..
     
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  22. jgonzalesm6

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    #222 jgonzalesm6, Jul 23, 2023
    2021 all over again.....no thanks.;)
     
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    #223 chipbiii, Jul 23, 2023
    When will there be a Ferrari turnaround?
     
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    #224 Sig. Roma, Jul 23, 2023
    I was wrong, Max’s pass on Hamilton at the start was well done.


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  25. jpalmito

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    #225 jpalmito, Jul 23, 2023
    Horner said to Autocar that future owners could convert it into a road car if they wanted to..
     
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