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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ Rossa Subscribed

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    jgonzalesm6, Jul 23, 2023
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    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ Rossa Subscribed

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    jgonzalesm6, Jul 23, 2023
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  3. jpalmito

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    Their engine is the best by a substantial margin.
    Best compromise all around.
     
    jpalmito, Jul 23, 2023
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    Jeronimo GTO, Jul 23, 2023
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  5. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

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    imagine if McLaren had stuck with them….
     
    GuyIncognito, Jul 23, 2023
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  6. Javierix

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    So strategy is overall better this year.

    Drivers are basically the same (downside is no improvement).

    Seems like the biggest issue is the car itself and Ferrari doesn’t seem to have answers there in terms of keeping up with other team upgrades. Whose fault is that? And can it be fixed for next season?

    Should Ferrari throw in the towel at this point for this season, and invest it all on improved car for next season?
     
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  7. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ Rossa Subscribed

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    I doubt anything would have happened with Mclaren if Honda stuck with them.

    Mclarens ethos is "It's my way or the highway!"
     
    jgonzalesm6, Jul 23, 2023
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  8. Bas

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    The mistakes he made in his early career are still there.
     
    Bas, Jul 23, 2023
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    DF1, Jul 23, 2023
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  10. GuyIncognito

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    I think they would have not had reached the depths of F1 as they bounced around from Renault to Mercedes

    2nd or 3rd in the constructors standings is much better than 8th or 9th….
     
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    100% fact. If it’s not the car giving up the ghost, it’s bad strategy. If it’s not bad strategy or the car, the drivers make a mistake. I’m actually happy Ferrari are failing. They do not deserve and have not earned a better position in the constructors standings above 4th or 5th imo. RB and Merc have demonstrated what pinpoint accuracy and professional execution can garner these last 10 yrs or so. C’mon Ferrari! Wake the eff up become the team your founder created!
     
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    Next WEC race ?
     
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    Can't wait to see RedBull making road cars...imagine seeing that RedBull logo all chromed out on the back a high end hyper car......WOW!
     
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    It's engine though. Mercedes, Honda and Ferrari are extremely close in power.

    It's extremely efficient aerodynamics.
     
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    let’s pray for torrential rain in the Ardennes forest next Sunday…
     
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    Does he actually?
     
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    Unfortunately the RB17 will be a track car only..
     
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    ^. McLaren would have planked it for sure.
     
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    Sure but i suspect Honda developed a very clever Power Unit as a whole..
     
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    That car is so sick......they might make a detuned version for the road you never know.
     
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    Agree
    Then Max will lap the whole field..
     
    jpalmito, Jul 23, 2023
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  22. jgonzalesm6

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    2021 all over again.....no thanks.;)
     
    jgonzalesm6, Jul 23, 2023
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    When will there be a Ferrari turnaround?
     
    chipbiii, Jul 23, 2023
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    I was wrong, Max’s pass on Hamilton at the start was well done.


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    Sig. Roma, Jul 23, 2023
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    Horner said to Autocar that future owners could convert it into a road car if they wanted to..
     
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