I've been reliably informed that any deposits dealers are taking now won't be honoured by Ferrari and that the criteria for allocation is not yet communicated to dealers.
Awesome. Finally a front engine V12 grand tourer!!! Not to diminish what Ferrari has actually accomplished with the 812- an absolute monster of a production sports car. Or as my son said last night as we did our little Le Mans 10 mi country circuit around the ranch: “this car is insane.” I’ve said this before- let the SF 90 be the super car/top of the line car/racer boy car. Let the 167 be the GT that it needs to be….. I’m absolutely giddy……. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
No. They are presently filling their list of potential buyers. Those who hope to be offered one and to be as early as possible in the queue . Which will be decided by the Ferrari HQ/RHQs . Same procedure as every time.
would we not have GT v12 as well as a "sporty v12"? either way, seems to be getting inventory heavy imo.
I mean that probably they want to build a more “ luxurious “ and “comfortable GT “ than the 812 , but maybe I mistake
Very nice for a first car, love that lancia. Pretty rare I was thinking about the Mega Montecarlo , an underground french supercar from the 90's
This is almost funny, I'm surprised some of you are giving this any credibility concerning names, especially. Whoever wrote that is surely much less informed than most reading this thread, let alone @day355. How on earth could ferrari be revealing definitive names at this stage... Also you have to love the oxymoron: they're "exploring the possibility" of launching a model that "will be called Montecarlo" (certainty!). Finally, the term "grandiose tourer" is misleading some of you into a sterile debate, this is the 812 replacement and all clues and facts available by now, point to the new model being the same philosophy as it predecessor, a sporty GT, sure the level of sportiness might be adjusted at will by Ferrari, but do not take that "grandiose tourer" label as a fact at all.
I am on the same page with you. Montecarlo has no significance to me and almost seems like they are trying to throw us off. It is the 812 replacement as you state from everything I can tell as well.
I don’t think anybody really gives a snippet like that much credibility, unless we are days away from the reveal (which I personally don’t think we are). What’s interesting is the idea of a different philosophy behind the F167’s driving dynamics. Seems like Day355 is dismissing it so may not be true but here are a few interesting things we know. - Since 812 was launched SF90, a completely new line to rival Aventador, has arrived and is acknowledged as the production car flagship - the V12 line no longer has to lead the way for sporty dynamics at a higher pricepoint than the mid-engined V8s - F167 mules have looked like a V12 Roma, Roma uses a lower state of tune V8 for more GT-style driving - It’s not easy to get too much more power from the 6.5 litre V12 and keep the car suitable for the slightly older V12 customer base - The F250 seems to be a V6 meaning the F167 won’t benefit from its powertrain development in the same way the F12 and LaFerrari did by sharing a similar engine - Day355 already acknowledged that F167 returns to the old-school Ferrari design language, which could be in keeping with a different product direction for the new V12 - For Ferrari to adopt more GT criteria takes pressure off them over weight and engine development at a time when they are developing an electric powertrain fit for a Ferrari (don’t shoot this comment - they are doing it whether we think they should or not, and it will be difficult). So F167 may not be more of a lux GT, but it wouldn’t be surprising if it was.
I still don't understand why Ferrari isn't developping a brand new V12 and put it in a Testarossa ( or BB512) revival ?
In any case, if we were to be hinted at something new or unexpected, I am 100% sure it wouldn't reach us as a brief newsletter from some dealer.
The Yes. 12 cylinders mild hybrid was the hint. The brand new PS houses the old 6.5l 12 cylinder still. Unelectrified. Why would they develop a new 12 cyl. just for the 167 only then? Many things seem to be clear as they deem to be logical. We will see it end of this year. Some still believe in 8 cylinder plug-in-hybrid.
That was resolved years ago. They can’t get the packaging as they want for a standard production car. Only way of getting low cog, mid mounted V12 is in a very long, specialised vehicle like LaFerrari. To get enough cabin space in a mid V12 you have to either make the car too long to be practical or mount the engine above the gearbox. They don’t see a market for a Ferrari with the Compromises of an Aventador with the transmission sitting between the passengers in a very wide-feeling car. It works for Lambo but doesn’t really for Ferrari, except if low volume, which of course means high price.
The text could have been easily made with ChatGPT, it has some inadequacies in the wording. On the other hand, the name “Purosangue“ was also known long before. But correct: It is very unusual for a dealer to reveal the name at this time. What do you say about #3826 by NZCREW (picture links above)? Is it the real steering wheel or AI-rendered? The manipulation with the Start/Stop-button would be easy to do. In the future, unfortunately, we can be less sure what is true. However, this thread is called "812 Replacement Rumors" and not "812 Replacement Facts“.
Get your explanation but sorry i don't buy it. There is room to propose a GT with a V12 rear mid engine.
