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Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by TexasMike, Mar 5, 2006.

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  1. Moopz

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    Definitely. It's the detail around the headlamps that caught my attention, and some of the shading. They have gotten ridiculously realistic.

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  2. Marcel Massini

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  3. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    From the proliferation of CGI images mixed with real images as posted upon Facebook & Instagram, you can see that there are lots of people who can't tell the difference between real and CGI images, that said, if you're sharp-eyed or have ever owned a real F40 you can spot a CGI image immediately, as you point out the lights and shadow application do not look real, also the proportions to my eye are almost always way off.

    Definitely a real F40.
     
  4. joe sackey

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    We do love our European F40s!

    Here's my quick & dirty image which I took at the Newport Beach storage facility and makeshift studio, the semi-circular studio wall moves along a circular track allowing you to move it into position to provide the background for any car being shot.

    One comment I must make about F40s is how differently they drive 30 plus years later, this well-maintained F40 has a smooth gearbox and comes on the boost eagerly, not always the case.

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  5. PAUL500

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    You have to love someone trying to have a sly dig! and failing miserably.

    I simply posted the side by side shot of the F40 and 288 specifically to illustrate how different they look whilst sharing a multitude of components. as I actually wrote at the same time.

    Did I know it was a cgi, to be honest I did not actually look that closely, until Moopz pointed it out, which I gracefully then acknowledged, rather than try to go around the houses pretending I actually knew all along.

    Did it matter, no not one iota as it still conveys the message I was illustrating for those that find such things interesting, rather than those here simply to make a buck from selling other peoples examples.

    The constant number of likes received when I find many of this lesser seen pics and illustrations and post them on this thread shows how most appreciate such.
     
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  6. PAUL500

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    Thought it best I go and consult the purfect 3 in house experts, who actually like to use their own as a sushi bar.

    They confirmed they are sat downstairs on the real deal, no cgi involved it seems, plenty of valuable barn find dust though.

    Always a good idea to get a second opinion.....
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  7. PAUL500

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    Now here is one most would actually wish was a cgi! then again maybe it is :p;)

    Seems Kitt has had an upgrade, Michael will be pleased.


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  8. joe sackey

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    ;) Lighten up Paul, it matters not one iota that you got a single like on the fake GTO & F40 picture, meanwhile for someone who can't tell the difference between a real F40 and a fake one therein lies the priceless humor as you hold yourself out to be some sort of expert on them on here, speaking of fake, isn't the car pictured with 3 of your best mechanics on it actually a 355-based replica F40 and not a real one?
     
  9. PAUL500

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    No need for me to lighten up Joseph, really grasping at straws there by harping on about just one of my many many other liked posts, just because you did not know the difference between rubber, plastic and composite, despite personally inspecting such cars as a claimed expert.

    Those kitties own more of an F40 than you have actually done in a long long time now.

    Having told prospective Enzo buyers since 2005 that were purchasing one of just 399 plus one example made (well until you were finally put right by Marcel not that long ago that such a figure accounted for just 80% of the total production), hardly an expert yourself either.

    For me it's just a hobby, like I said before its ok to be fallible.

    Total denial of such however is another personailty disorder all together.
     
  10. joe sackey

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    :D Relax Paul, you like to come on here and disparage, dismiss, deride & school people, so I couldn't resist, fair play, all good.

    Content is everything, and your Facebook-copied material replete with cars that you didn't realize were not real speaks for itself. If indeed this is admittedly just a hobby for you, it's ironic that here you are on FChat holding yourself out to be an expert on numerous subjects. Whereas I'll concede, there's nothing wrong with having F40s as a hobby, even the people who like your posts will agree, it's unquestionably better if we are talking about real F40s, something you have precious little experience with - the irony again.

    I never said anywhere I wasn't fallible, that notion is yet another of your assertions which you've made up that's not real ;) that said of the many I've made, I recall my first really big mistake, I was 20, she was older & famous, but hey, I'm always willing to make the effort to learn!

    Your F40-era information in your post in the Enzo section is based on acquired knowledge for your still-to-materialize F40 replica project, and any experienced Ferrari coach-builder will school you (coming soon) on how composite technology evolved significantly from the F40 era over the next 15 years to the Enzo era, thus, your F40 era-based post proves absolutely nothing about the specific composition of Enzo body panels. Funnier still are the likes you got for it! Meanwhile I do know the difference between plastic and composite materials and the various combinations thereof, having overseen 2 different Enzo refurbishments for clients, and having taken the time to discuss the subject with several Ferrari-authorized coach-builders as I've posted, whereas, you on the other hand have zero experience with Enzos, certainly not real ones.

    Those cute little kitties own part of something which isn't a real F40 and never will be, hasn't run for a long long time, and has an uncertain completion date which might be beyond their lifespan. At least I actually enjoyed 7 years of real F40 ownership with 3 different cars, and, before you jump to any hasty conclusions as you do so well, privately I still occasionally speculate on a few real cars as others can attest to, here's another real F40 in my garage not a million years ago https://www.instagram.com/p/CZtQHjVL85s/?img_index=1 I know you won't approve because it's a USA F40, however, I must confess Eu F40s are growing on me...

    As a historian, I have always happily adjusted any received corroborated production number wisdom, as does Marcel and any other historian, there's no shame in that, we research and learn. However, I doubt any Enzo owner really cares how many Enzos were built by Ferrari SpA in production or post-production despite what they themselves state on the car's limited production badge, wether the number is 399, 500, or somewhere in between. Ferrari Supercars have become a big boys & girls game, if you don't like the production number antics of Ferrari SpA, just don't buy their cars. All that matters to my personal Enzo clients is having a real one, not wether there were 399 or 500 or so.

    Here's what a real F40 VIN plate looks like, no CGI, no Facebook, pic by me.

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  11. PAUL500

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    You still constantly seem to think you have the right to tell other users what to do on here time and time again, as if it were your own little domain. Sheer arrogance.

    Out of respect to those that have sent me numerous private messages I will not identify them (mainly long term posters and F40 owners, however if the mods want to see such I will give them full access if needed) all stating that they no longer post or even read threads in this subsection anymore as a direct result of your constant bombardment of anything they post, and that you force onto people your way or the highway on all matters until they simply give up, and that you are rude and condescending to anyone you do not think you will make a buck off, but fawn over any you hope to, such as DK appearing in nearly all your recent posts (a non fchat sponsor and good guys), clearly an angle to try to become some sort of US agent for their Euro spec F40 sales (as you have no representation what so ever outside of the US to acquire such cars now flooding into the US). Newsflash they have no need of you, they are doing rather fine anyway.


    Anyway ok let us roll back your premise over the last few threads your sudden desire to attempt to push a claim that I actually know nothing about the F40 (initially very badly veiled until I called you out) then a full on attack with your usual copy and paste quoting process.

    What is the basis of your claim?

    One single post I made recently, after being an active member of this subsection for over 10 years now with nearly 3000 posts.

    In that post I put up a pic (a picture, an illustration, a representation) of a front end, side by side comparison of the F40 and 288.

    What was the reason I did such, well I went on the highlight how despite looking many years apart, both cars share a large number of common components.

    That was it.

    Another user then highlighted the fact that this was a very good cgi, which was very informative (but I had not even stated it was an actual photograph), it did not diminish the actual point I had made in that post.

    He and I both then shared likes between those posts, and that was the end of that.

    However for some weird reason you quickly then leapt on such and made it the sole basis from then on of a continual claim that this information cancelled out everything I have ever posted over those last 10 years and 3000 posts, and as usual then went into a torrid self promotion as is your raison detre on here.

    Let's try to work out the reason for your actions.

    Well we do not have to look very hard, it relates to you stating in the Enzo section a few days ago quite clearly, that the bottom part of the front clam is made from rubber or plastic (your words).

    Another user simply pointed out it was in fact made from composite, a very different material entirely.

    Rather than just acknowledge this fact, instead you went on the typical around the houses attempt to blur such a fact to cover up your very clear error.

    I pointed out it's actually ok to be wrong on occasion, and that most of us are.

    But no, you still tried to to evade the fact, falling back on the colour of the component instead, which you even needed to verify with Marcel only a few days prior was how the factory produced it despite these cars being 20 odd years old now.

    We have butted heads in the past about your actions, such is life, it is only the internet, I am a big boy. Will I be word bullied away from continuing to post any pictures or information I come across about the F40 that may also be of interest to other users in this subsection? Not a chance in hell, everyone apart from yourself appreciates it all given the vast number of likes they receive.

    Want to keep this up? then keep on digging that hole for all to see from now to eternity by any prospective customers coming into this section, as I say this is just my hobby, when I am bored I go and tinker with my toys, things we actually own rather than storing for others.

    Hey we could even have a photo game.

    What is the actual length of the genuine, removable aerofoil on an F40?

    Now anyone can get a buddy to quickly run a tape measure over one, so in addition to such, what does it actually weigh when removed? with a pic to show it on the scales and a thumbs up in that photo?
     
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  12. thx enzo

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    You two definitely have too much time on your hands to keep pissing at each other.
     
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  13. PAUL500

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  15. joe sackey

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  18. joe sackey

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    I believe so, I wish I had made close-up images of the Nomex fabric does it look similar to your 80715's?
     
  19. rmolke85

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    From what I see here, it’s exact.
     
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  20. joe sackey

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  21. haroonok

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    interesting video about F40 paint/bodywork.
     
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  22. dariedell

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    Thanks for sharing. I love TCW but am months behind on their content.

    The first busted myth of theirs seems more like pedantry than an actual busted myth. I'm referring to the clarification that the weave we see through the paint is not the carbon kevlar structure itself, but rather the layers in between the carbon kevlar and the Rosso Corsa paint having sunk into the weave. Either way, the pattern effect we see through the paint is a result of the carbon kevlar structure.

    The second busted myth is more interesting IMO. I have heard many a reputable F40 resource use the rule that visible weave = original paint. And here Tyrrell's associate is saying the same look could be achieved from a 2-year-old repaint having settled in, and the ONLY way to tell original paint is a sanding job. In other words, there's no way to identify original paint until it's removed...

    Curious what some FChat members experienced in F40 paint and originality feel about that claim!
     

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