looking for radio harness for aftermarket Ferrari 612

Could someone please provide me with information about the required harness to connect an official Becker connection to an aftermarket Pioneer radio SPH-DA360DAB

Each time I search, I end up with the following harness, which is officially intended for VW:
BHA1784 from PAC.

The standard Pioneer plugs are plug-and-play and officially approved. However, in my understanding, the 8-DIN connectors also need to be connected to make the amplifier function. Currently, it's not working.

Finding information is easy for Porsche and Audi, but when it comes to Ferrari, I'm lost.

Thank you for your assistance.
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Can anyone advise me on which connector I need to properly connect my Pioneer unit to the standard Becker wiring?

The amplifier is currently not functioning.

For Porsche, everything is readily available, but when searching for this, there's so much information out there that it's hard to distinguish the right solution.

I want to correctly connect a Pioneer multimedia system in a Ferrari 612.

Thank you for your response.

 

Assuming your setup was similar to the one in the 360 and your objective is to retrofit a standard ISO connector, maybe you should have a look a this discussion : https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/360-stereo-wiring.676419/

 

Thank you for your response. I will take some time to study this.

I was hoping for a plug and play solution, but I don't think that exists.

Best regards, Ramon

 

A "plug and play" becker to Iso harness is quite common. This being said, it seems that some Ferrari are fitted with an additional amplifier that boosts the Becker output. Assuming the becker is 4x25w, the booster can double this output (4x50w). unfortunately if you put a stereo with a strong output you may fry the booster (if you send 4x100w to the booster it will try to boost it to 4x200w and die...).

So if you install a stereo that is equally powerful as the becker, you can use a cheap harness adapter. If the stereo is more powerful, you will have to make a more extensive analysis of what's fitted in the factory audio.

 

Thank you for your response.

I have the (standard) Becker, I believe, along with the installation. There's nothing mentioned on the option list.

However, I can't seem to find the value of the Becker Radio online.

It's the Becker Online Pro with CD Changer.

Perhaps you could provide me with some more clarity.

Best regards,

Ramon

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No knowmedge of your car. A picture of the becker and pionner connector would help.

Assuming you have a becker 6105 and, this one iso connector A B and C. C is not often used, and usually includes additional line outs for an external amplifier. If your Pioneer does not have the C connector, there are some workarounds, but not plug and play...

 

Thank you for your assistance and feedback.

Here are some photos, hoping these provide you with sufficient insight,

as well as an overview of the Pioneer and the Becker.

Thanks again.

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The Becker and pioneer

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I mean the back of the radio units, as the connectors are easier to identify than on the harness.

The top connector is all you have connected to the becker?

 

1ste Is back of Pioneer SPH-DA360DAB
2 and 3 are the connectors from Ferrari.
4 is back off Becker Online Pro

Thnx


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Yes and it works but not great

 

Does your car have the premium JBL stereo option?

 

as far as i know and can read on the option list it is a standard bose system. Thanks for your response so far.

 

Well on this car, both the standard and the JBL systems have separate amplifiers. I do know what with the 488, the JBL amplifier has optical inputs so you cannot completely bypass it. Not sure about the 612. When you say your amplifier doesn't work, are you referring to your stock amp, or did you already swap it out with an aftermarket unit?
Regarding the wiring harness (BHA1784), that is the correct harness for speaker output/power/ground/amp turnon. However, most of the time the power and the amp turn on wires are crossed with this particular harness. If this is the case, the problem may be as simple as your amp not receiving the 12V turn on signal.

I'm the owner of Scuderia Audio (www.scuderiaaudio.com). PM me and we can talk details. Perhaps I can help.

 

Thank you for your response. I've come across this type multiple times before. Is this the one you're referring to?

It's definitely a Bose system, I'm certain of it, as seen in the photo. An installer in the Netherlands wants to cut and modify wires, but I specifically prefer to keep the original radio and frame intact within the Ferrari. This way, the Ferrari can be reverted back without any changes or cutting, maintaining its original condition.

Once again, I appreciate your response and await your reply patiently.

Best regards,

Ramon

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I'm trying to find a wiring harness diagram (BHA1784), but I can't seem to locate it anywhere.

 

Well looking at your Becker, it's got the standard ISO A & B plug, but also the C one (that drives the amp).

No doubt you can easily find a harness between that links plugs A&B to your Pioneer, unfortunately the C connector is going to be more tricky. C plug is actually 3 connectors in one. First part is "line-out" (i.e a non amplified signal that feeds an external amp), Second part is for remote control / speed sensing / etc. Third part is not is meant to control an external CD changer.

Based on your description so-far, I would assume that your car uses an external amplifier that requires at least the first part of the C plug. Either you buy a a proper pre-out cable for your Pionneer (see page 4 of your manual), or you hack the harness. If my assumption is correct, you would have feed the connector C as follows :

• "tap" a speaker to line-out converter on your connector B (pins B1,B2,B3, B4). This converter will modify the signal so as to make it compliant with what your amps expects.
  
• "tap" switched +12v from Connector A (pin A7), this one will enable to start the amp.

OR

• Use the optional Pre-Out cable, which is more or less the same, except that you do not have to tap cables and add line-out converters, but you still have to feed the ISO C connector.

https://pinoutguide.com/CarAudio/car_audio_iso_pinout.shtml

 

Thnx for you reaction.

And that's where the problem lies,

For the C-room, there are only 2 connections, the C2 and C3. My Ferrari does have the CD changer. but no C1



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Let's get back to basic:

• the audio works and is amplified but does not sound great ?
• You've got an auxiliary amplifier (as seen in message #16) ?
• Do you have a CD changer ?

If you do not have C1 and an external amplifier, I assume this amplifier operates as a booster of the signal that comes from socket B. In this case your mechanic is probably right, you'd better disconnect the external amplifier and only use the built in amp of your new head-unit.

 

• the audio works and is amplified but does not sound great ?
• You've got an auxiliary amplifier (as seen in message #16) ?
• Do you have a CD changer ? Yes

If you do not have C1 and an external amplifier, I assume this amplifier operates as a booster of the signal that comes from socket B. In this case your mechanic is probably right, you'd better disconnect the external amplifier and only use the built in amp of your new head-unit.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I have a CD changer.

Personally, I keep thinking that it's socket A point 5. If I'm correct, that's connected to the blue/white of Pioneer.

But is it easy to disable it via the DIN plug? I want to keep the Ferrari's wiring intact so that the original setup can always be restored.

Thank you once again for your response.



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Socket A pin 5 used to be called antenna wire because once the head unit was starting it would ask to raise the antenna through this wire. This wire is now used to start whatever ancillary the audio may need (amplifier, antenna pre-amp, cd changer, etc...), but still called antenna wire.

If you do want to make the modification easy to revert, just source the same socket as the amplifier socket connector, and ask your technician to properly crimp wires so as to make it a "bypass socket".

 

"Okay, learned something new again because the term 'amplifier' was mentioned. the amplifier from the Pioneer radio will be great, I wouldn't really miss it because I'm deaf on one side; my girlfriend is the one who notices, hence the question."

 

Socket: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity-AMP/1534046-1?qs=YBpyWNYh7BlUc3eWvMQI/A==

Connector: https://www.ebay.com/itm/155542195549?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr=1&amdata=enc:1YgNaGtRqQjeuht2Eioea8A52&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=155542195549&targetid=4580153136941813&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=437225722&mkgroupid=1224856224320848&rlsatarget=pla-4580153136941813&abcId=9300906&merchantid=51291&msclkid=34e6ecb3122f13a38abe886d448127e3

You can make your own bypass harness for under 50 bucks.

Buy this if you need to bypass the radio: https://www.discountcarstereo.com/aih-audi.html

 

Another connector: https://www.ebay.com/itm/275929884005?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338590836&toolid=10044&customid=881e001cfbb71856093a64c276346c1b