296 VS

The GT3 RS could still be giving the 296 some track styling cues. Oh and it is offered in a naturally aspirated engine...

Maybe the Artura is there for UI upgrades...?

 

Considering recent Ferrari (culminating with the 296) any car could be a good inspiration for UI upgrades

 

I’m day dreaming with my post, but I hope any part of my reasoning is true.

it’s probably there just for some benchmarking purposes or to compare aerodynamics against the GT3 if the VS has some sort of aggressive new components like the XX. Not sure why the Artura is there though honestly.

 

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maybe they're going for GT3 RS beating performance (easily doable given what the regular GTB has proven it can do) with Artura comfort.

whoever gets a chance for this car will be one lucky SOB.

 

I'm glad there's NO wing

 

Imo it’s not the 296 VS but new extreme V6 (new model in the range) because if it was 296 VS there will be warning stickers on it.

 

I think a non-electrified 296 VS would be a considerable step backwards for the platform.

Electrification should continue to compliment IC deficiencies and enhance the car.

The big turning point will be finding a way to significantly decrease the weight of said electrification and improve handling.

Along with the weight the design should build upon charging the battery stores so you never are depleted of that source of power / enhancement.


If at some point in the future IC is dead the race will be on for high end vehicles to solve both of those problems.

Rimac, Tesla, Lucid are all limited to strictly straight line performance and are pigs at everything else.

 

Good points. Also they could use that car in the pic to test anything


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Yes, it is hard to believe that Ferrari will go non-hybrid for its special edition 296. The car would be a lot slower.

 

That’s true but isn’t the GT3 RS slower than the Turbo S?

 

the battery alone mode is extremely disappointing. i think its real purpose is to crawl silently thru small towns and neighborhoods.

 

If they significantly reduced weight and added 50hp it would aid all aspects of performance (braking, cornering, etc). I love to see that approach. May not be faster in a straight line but would likely lap faster and increase the “fun to drive” factor. I doubt it’ll happen but I can dream of a 2800# 675hp Ferrari.

 

reducing weight would mean that a lot of road noise would enter cabin. i would give up some wt for comfort.
a 296 scuderia would be nice option.

 

I think VS should mean giving up some comfort in its very nature. Straight line speed can be decreased in order to prioritize lap speed. Being quiet can go out the window as well. The qualities of a VS car should be aggressive in my opinion, as they are for the RS equivalent for Porsche (not so over the top but of the same path). Even a bit more aggressive of a progression than the Pista was to the 488.

 

Each edition of the VS model over the decades has progressively become more aggressive. I too also expect the 296 VS to be more radical than it's predecessors

 

Battery mass can not be smaller or lighter given the tech we have now for couple of years. Only changes will come from liquid cooled method for cylinder and pouch type partial or full immersive.
Even that adds weight of liquid but will give higher output from the battery and thus will have more hp motor as well as shorter charge time.
But I doubt we will have any higher density lighter battery pack for the road use any time soon.


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The Porsche analogue of the 296 vs 296 VS would be the 911 Turbo S vs 911 GT2 RS, not the GT3 RS. Ferrari's VS are never slower than the base cars.

 

Actually it would be the GT3 and GT3 RS.

 

That's one way of seing it, even though the RS is barely more powerful than the normal GT3...

 

The GT2RS is more of a turbo version of a GT3RS than a variant of the “Turbo” line. The Turbos have AWD and a focus on luxury/comfort both inside and out. RSs have an adjustable suspension with solid connections and significant weight savings as they are more track focused. Also, one is designed and built by the GT division under AP and the other is a regular production line vehicle.

 

To compete with the other current hard core road cars which can be also used on track, the car needs a wing, and a bloody big wing.

Underfloor downforce only works on smooth race tracks or very even roads ( tell me the last time you drove on perfectly smooth fun roads, outside of Germany or Scandinavia), in fact underfloor aero becomes dangerous when roads are uneven and the cars aero suddenly detaches..

Two of my favourite Ferrari road cars are the F40 and F50, both with wings, they make the design to my eyes looks more balanced on hardcore cars . In fact, the Enzo and LaF look kinda strange not having wings.

I much prefer the silhouette of the Fxxk Evo than the standard Laf. The LaF looks like a scared retreating Tiger with is tail cut off.

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The RS cars from the Porsche GT division might not always be doing record breaking times on flying single laps, on every circuit, but they will lap consistently around the same times all day at a track day. No road Ferrari car can do that ( or many other standard road car outside of track day specials like Radicals or Caterham's etc)..
Go to any track day in any country, and they are flooded with Porsche GT cars being driven hard. A Ferrari at a track day driven hard is a unicorn.

The fastest road Ferrari independently tested around the Nürburgring is the 296 GTB, it did a 6:58.70, in 2023. (7:00.03 for a Pista).

9 Porsche road cars are beating that time, 9!!!

The fastest independent Porsche time is 6:54.99 by a Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992.1), that's the old model, with 500Bhp and limited aero (not like the new 992 GT3 RS).

The fastest "official" time by a Porsche at the Ring by a road car is 6:38.835 by a Porsche 911 GT2 RS MR (991.2) set in 2021.. My guess is the new 992 GT3 RS gets close to this time, with 200 bhp less but a lot more aero.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nürburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times#Production/street-legal

 

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Others hold the opposite opinion.

The Nordschlefie is not the beginning and end of all. Moreover, unlike Porsche, Ferrari don't set-up their cars specifically for the N-ring. The only reason that Ferraris are not as ubiquitous on track days is cost, even though our local Ferrari club holds frequent track events. Anyway, the 296 posted an identical time as the new GT3 RS, on the only track they were both independently tested (Hockenheim GP) and the Ferrari is not nearly as track focused and specialised, thus making it a superior road car, apart from a track monster.

 

Agreed on their durability and cost per mile. My current track car is a 718 4.0 with about $25k of safety and suspension mods. I will regularly track the 296 as I often track my Roma now. Even Ferrari is surprised on that one.