250 LM Picture Thread

This will certainly be exciting:

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo23/monterey/lots/r0148-1964-ferrari-250-lm-by-scaglietti/1367942

 

250LM and 412P. Not a bad way to spend $50m plus.

 

Car’s utterly amazing. As is its history.

 

I photographed this one today, looking similarly immaculate. But whilst I love them, I can't help feeling a little bit sad that they are so shiny and "new" that there is no room left for any trace of things they've done; the races they've won and lost. I can't help but note the irony that the Le Mans winning 499 P was displayed at Goodwood last weekend still proudly sporting the dirt and detritus from its triumph whilst its near-60 year old brethren look like they've never left the showroom. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

That one finished second at LeMans in 1965, or at least a Giallo one with number 26 did.

 

The photo looks like 6313 (6033). We (Symbolic Motors) purchased that one at a Christie’s Pebble Beach sale back in the later-1990s.

 

Typo, you meant to write 6023.

Marcel Massini

 

The Le Mans winning 499 P should be preserved forever like it is today.

 

As it is the car of the month, here is my favorite picture from Pebble Beach last year:
https://barchetta.mediacenter.plus/-/Events-by-Year-Auction-Concours-News-Race-Rally-etc/2020-2029/2022/Concours/Monterey-Car-Week/Pebble-Beach-Concours-dElegance/Pebble-Beach-Concours-d-Elegance/?v=a&dir=2332967&rd=1964532&i=5244274
I guess you do not see a short and a long nose in the same picture that often....

 

For clarity - the photos in posts 177, 178 and 180 are of the RM car being auctioned - 6053.

 

Here.

Marcel Massini

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Thank you. I spent a solid two hours admiring this incredible car at Pebble. I especially like that it’s clean of livery.

 

Yes, I meant to type 6023 . . .

 

Curious what happened with #6053? I was eagerly awaiting the auction and there is no result posted. Did I miss something? Was this a private sale car?

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo23/monterey/lots/r0148-1964-ferrari-250-lm-by-scaglietti/1367942

 

Apparently no sale and offered afterwards for negotiation by RM.

 

The high bid was at $17m.

 

Was 17 a real offer or the chandelier?

 

Jeff: I do not know. At that level, most things are orchestrated in preparation for the "show".

 

I am suspicious that 17 is the same as the earlier sale for a serial number I perceive to have more "smoke".

 

I’m surprised it didn’t exceed its estimate, particularly considering it was the “Belle of the Ball” for RM this year. I didn’t watch the auction but I’m guessing there was a massive deflation in the room when they announced a no sale.

 

I’m not an auction authority by any means, but I suppose this dispels the commonly held opinion that these auctions are all for show and everything is resolved ahead of time in a secret back room. Either that, or the “pre determined bidder at an agreed to price” never showed. Either way, doesn’t look great for RM.

 

Here’s the auction at the 2:56:55 moment.

https://www.youtube.com/live/42cLl9NSg78?feature=share

 

Interesting. It appeared to be real bidding but there was not any enthusiasm for the last several million.

Anybody actually there that can say how many different bidders there were?

 

And some people question opinions/views on auction ethics and lack of transparencies, i.e. my long standing lack of belief in much or some of their self-reported results.

 

I posted these photos previously on FChat, about PB (probably '87 or so) so as these pertain to
the LM, and I had never seen one in the live, plus...people actually moved to let you take a pic or 2. Cannot imagine prices then...

Hope not to be too repetitive.
Regards, Alberto

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