FORMULA 1 PIRELLI GRAN PREMIO D'ITALIA 2023 - Monza....Race..... ▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀

you dont understand well, they were talking about women in f1 . your attitude sucks lately dude. I never start with you . Maybe i posted in the wrong thread.

 

The pass he attempted on Carlos wasn't an example of "not trying the impossible".

And if he can close up on Sainz, he could have closed up on any RB behind Sainz, taking some pressure off Carlos. So that isn't "doing the impossible".

I like Chuck, but I was disappointed with his drive in this race.

 

Verstappen races differently in 2023. He doesn't feel the need to push opponents off the track...

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Sainz robbed outside Milan hotel after F1 Italian GP podium finish
Ferrari Formula 1 driver Carlos Sainz was robbed outside of his Milan hotel hours after his podium finish in the 2023 Italian Grand Prix.

It is understood that Sainz had a Richard Mille watch - the Alexander Zverev model named after the German tennis player worth £235,000 - taken as he left the Armani Hotel on Viale Manzoni.

Three people, who are thought to have been waiting outside the hotel for some time, encountered Sainz and stole his watch.

The F1 driver then set off in pursuit with his personal trainer, while bystanders who had seen the robbery also attempted to help intervene.

Sainz and his assistant managed to stop one of the three robbers after a car, then foot, chase.

The second robber was then stopped on Via della Spiga by Sainz’s manager.

The third was stopped very shortly after with the help of another one of Sainz’s personnel.

Police officers then arrived on the scene and took the robbers, aged between 18 and 20, into custody.

Sainz retrieved the Ferrari team sponsor watch before returning to his hotel.

 

On a roll - smooth operator.

 

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F should release a Ferrari LaFamilia.

 

Not even himself

He's a sneaky ...

 

Carlos - hero of the people. What more does Ferrari want lol

That was a team effort to stop those idiots. Well done. Was he pursuing them in a Ferrari??

 

I recorded the Sky prerace show and watched it last night. There was a noticeable….and appreciated….dearth of celebritards on Brundle’s grid walk and I enjoyed the interviews with Gasly and Piero, but the self congratulatory virtue signaling about Sky Zero (as I think it’s called) was nauseating and stole valuable time from what we tuned in to see: a race, ffs. The time could have been much better used with more history: Phil Hill’s 1961 win and Mario’s in 1978; the 1988 Miracle of Monza; the last victory for a front engine GP car in 1960 (Ferrari/P. Hill), etc.

 

Ignore him, he says stuff like this from time to time then back peddles furiously to try and make it seem like some really heady, on the nose take on a hot topic.

Yawn.

 

Sad you believe whats in your mind really. I dont back peddle anything. now follow your own advice and click ignore as will I.

 

the point is, saying we need more women, more X's and Y's, more T's crossed...it's nothing to do with F1.

F1 needs the best of the very best, the fastests and best drivers. If you're not among the best and fastests, you don't belong in F1. Skin colour, orientation, gender, whatever, does. Not. Matter.

 

You know, post-race, Hamilton assigned himself full blame for the incident and apologized to Piastri for not leaving him enough room. I don't think even Hamilton would agree with your assessment of that particular incident.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

+1 he was direct and expeditious in finding Piastri.

 

Anyone remember when a touch like that would send a wheel into the crowd?

yeah... colin chapman is turning over in his grave.

 

Except Stroll. He’s allowed in F1 for being crap. Without him, F1 would be a dull place.

 

He only apologized cause he got away with a 5 sec penalty that didnt affect him.

 

I was at a symposium at Goodwood where Ricardo Patrese was asked what he thought was the biggest difference between drivers of his era and today’s drivers. After a thoughtful pause, he said, “Today’s drivers don’t respect each other on the track the way that we did.” When asked to explain: “The cars and tracks are too safe. There is not enough risk. So drivers don’t give each other room; they aren’t reluctant to bang wheels. If they go off course there are usually no consequences except perhaps a crash to cause retiring the car.”

That was paraphrased of course, and since his English is not the best he may not have been fully conveying what he intended. Still, he made his point eloquently and I don’t disagree. Degrees of risk, whether physical, spiritual or financial, always influence behavior.

 

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It was probably marble pickup

 

After thinking about this more, it occurred to me that this is why we have so many “sporting rules” and penalties now. In previous eras all those rules weren’t necessary because the drivers feared the potential consequences of rough driving or over driving more than they feared losing. They policed themselves and each other. Regardless of what the movies tell us, no sane person would rather die than lose a race, much less in a fight over mid-pack or tail end scraps. Yet, it happens all the time now because the penalty is five seconds, not a limb, or more.

 

I remember the late Stirling Moss saying only a few years ago, that if he was young he wouldn't be interested in F1 now because of the absence of risk, adding he would have chosen another sport.
The risk completed the thrill of speed for Moss. Driving at knife edge knowing that any mistake would be costly kept a person honest, he went on to say. A lot of drivers thought like that in the 50s and 60s, and many paid for it too.