FORMULA 1 PIRELLI GRAN PREMIO D'ITALIA 2023 - Monza....Race..... ▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀

Once AGAIN, Hamilton fails to leave room, on-track, for an alongside driver ... in direct violation of rules that have been in-place for years (if not decades). Hamilton caused the collision, AGAIN, because he drives like he's the only car on track ... the only car that "matters".

It's no more complicated than that.

Even though the penalty proved to be of no consequence, it's refreshing to at least see the stewards finally penalizing Hamilton's extremely dangerous, entitled style of driving.

 

I think Charles didn't fight Checo because he wanted tires to fight Carlos. I dont like it, but I think that was it.

 

It's funny because the people that continue to call Max ''crashstappen'' still vilify him for stuff like this (Hmm actually excuse me, I don't think he's ever turned right for a left hander on the straight before taking another out), yet crickets when Lewis does it time and time again...

 

There is a saying that goes like this:"You main opponent is your team mate"
Leclerc wanted to defend his Number One status at Ferrari.
A stronger defense against Perez would have been more beneficial to the team, but the Spaniard was his target.

 

Charles did fight Checo, in fact, checo almost crashed trying to pass him, now a smart driver, once he realizes que will be passed soone ror later, will choose to let the adversary go, adn save his tyres and stop losing time to fight an easyer prey. Charles did just that, he used his head. One can say maybe he should have just sloted behind Carlos and folowed him till the end, but i can also ask, why after being passed by Max, didn't Carlos let Charles trough, at a time he was a clearly the faster of the two?
If there was no understanding between them to hold positions for the whole race (and i can't understand a reason why they should do so), i think Charles has every right to try and get the best possible place. If you ask me, i would have told them to hold positions in the last 5 laps, there was nothing to gain for the team, but for the drivers, it's obviously a diferent story, so, if Ferrari alowed Charles to fight, i can't see anything wrong from him.

 

I think in the case of the hamilton/piastri situation, and others like it when one driver ruins another's race with only a minimal penalty, they should wait to see where the affected driver comes out after repairs and make the penalty 5 seconds behind the drivers who's race was ruined. If that makes sense. If the affected driver retires, 20 second stop/go. I would hope this would get rid of some of this wreckless driving from some of these guys. Quit making this 5 second time penalty a thing. It's far too common.

 

That's very reasonable.

 

I'm a Charles guy. I was just making an observation. I think Carlos drove a great race as well.

 

Obviously. CL's a sneaky (....)

That's vindictive. 10 sec stop + go. No need to wait.

 

In the end, I hope Ferrari keeps them both and delivers a decent car. They both have great points. Did either get a real chance with a great car? So much drama is forced for clicks. FFS drive the damn car.

 

Your theory is that CL is faster than everyone. Reality seems to disagree, over and over.

"No risk". He lost fair and square to the faster and more complete driver - 55.

 

Yes he did i would say it was his best race at Ferrari and he had some good ones before....not many though....his only mistake the whole weekend was that lockup that alowed Max to pass, but it was bound to happen, sooner or later

 

Sure he did. When HAM beat him up the inside he could have tucked in behind him. That's what they did in the pre-bumper car era.

PER would have driven up the outside, not braked, and even if HAM made the corner on the tightest possible line, cut the chicane and moaned on the radio that 'he pushed me off'.

That's what F1 has become. :-(

 

I have seen F1 drivers with more experience than Piastri on the track regarding the same situation(Piastri - Lewis) and guess what?.....it ends up just about the same way AND at times both drivers get taken out. It's racing.

Btw, this was Hamiltons fault so don't blame Piastri for the incident.

 

Letting Charles pass instead of backing him into Perez before the first pit would have been more beneficial to the team too But, as your quoted saying goes ....

 

We've seen Chuck quicker than Carlos ... in a single qualifying lap.
But not this weekend.
And that doesn't reflect the race pace of the red cars.
So why do we assume that Charles was "faster" than Carlos in the race, when Carlos got pole and it was clear the RBs were faster than the Ferraris in race trim?

The only way to beat RB in the race is teamwork, not intramural fighting.
(Unless you want to resort to a voodoo curse on their engines. )

 

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If Sainz was faster he wouldn't have spent the 2nd half of the first stint and the entire 2nd stint defending against Charles.

 

They're driving the same car.
Chuck was protecting his tires .... by leaving Carlos under attack by the RBs.

 

Yes, and in the end Leclerc could not pass Sainz in spite of fresher tires (because he saved them while Sainz was stressing his, defending against the RB) and DRS advantage...

 

I think this was exposed fully at Monza.

Via Autsport.


F1's current cars getting as hard to follow as in 2020/2021, lament drivers
Formula 1's current ground-effect cars are starting to get as tricky to follow each other as the 2020 and 2021 machines, leading drivers have claimed.

While the Italian Grand Prix featured a number of overtakes and plenty of wheel-to-wheel action to show what is possible with the current generation of cars, there is now some concern about the impact of development directions that teams are taking.

As they probe ways to increase performance, this is inevitably resulting in the increased out-wash characteristic of airflow that is known to hurt the ability of cars to follow each other.

This is why leading drivers believe that F1 needs to lean even more on DRS if there is to be any hope of overtaking at certain venues.

Ferrari's Carlos Sainz said: "In 99% of the tracks I think we're going to need DRS, and we're going to need a powerful DRS, because these cars from the beginning of the year are starting to become a bit like 2021 or 2020 where it is difficult to follow.

 

They can send a thank you note to Toto and his incestant whinging leading to TD39 and the 2023 changes.

 

No. The natural evolution has been more downforce in most any modern era. These cars get downforce no matter lol. The engineers add it so quickly Pirelli updated compounds this year.

 

This is what they should reduce, IMO. Less downforce = less grip = longer braking distance = less corner speed = higher top speed, etc ...
Less downforce would make the cars more difficult to drive, requiring more skill.
That should add to the show; I cannot be the only one who finds the cars less and less spectacular.
Downforce can be measured and fixed to a maximum level; any team not respecting it would be disqualified.

 

Utter BS, Hamilton is a **** and apologizing was as fake as his fans