Wasn't that when we were expecting F250 before F167 was pushed from late 2023 to 2024? Would anyone mind refreshing my mind, as to what the expected 2024 calendar is looking like now. Are we expecting F250 before or after F167 with the revised launch schedule
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And there are 2 flaps (one on each side) on the camouflage... It could be a decoy, or it could be for the electric charging port.
if you have free time , take a few minutes and read the post written in past few months. It WILL NOT be a hybrid. and regarding 296... Image Unavailable, Please Login
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You get the FCHAT creativity award! Cool idea and overall your concept looks great. I’d buy it! Thanks for contributing this.
Don't apologize for adding drawings. Those are what keeps these pre-launch threads refreshing in my opinion. Thanks for your contribution! Out of curiosity; Was your drawing inspired by the Koenigsegg Gemera? The roof concept and ducktail brings Gemera connotations to my mind.
OMG No, not at all; I swear I don't know this car! Now I'm going to google it (done) OMG it's very similar
You should be receiving the cease and desist letter from their attorneys shortly! Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
As for hybrid vs not- I’m fine with it either way as long as it has the glorious V12. Yes there are weight and complexity issues with hybrids but the performance advantages are there and if means continuation of the V12 I’m all for it Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Since they won’t be continuing the V12 past F167 all the more reason they will absolutely not be investing in a hybrid for a bloodline with no future. I wish people would stop going there about a hybrid F167.
No one really announces that. How do you know he has contacts to the factory? I firmly believe that there is a small hybrid support. Whether that's 30-40-50-70 hp I don't know. According to my information the 812 GTS is the last one with a V12 without hybrid.
Where do you get the statement that it will be the last naturally aspirated V12? This is all wild speculation until 2035 everything is possible and after that probably also with e-fuels. You are also just speculating wildly
Because the Ferrari CEO has indicated their goals...read/see it for yourself...time is too short to create an all new V12 and have time to re-coup development costs before production would be cancelled, at least for Europe (Euro 7), the current V12 is not Euro 7 compliant and it is doubtful the F167 will be either since Euro 7 is a rather new standard, and the F167 has been in development far longer. Tweet— Twitter API (@user) date Ferrari, Benedetto Vigna: 'We need to focus on electrification rather than Euro 7' https://www.motori.it/news/3611591/ferrari-benedetto-vigna-bisogna-puntare-sullelettrificazione-anziche-sulleuro-7.html “Proceeding with Euro 7 as currently conceived would distract the attention of our team and our suppliers. Our suggestion is to accelerate electrification. We don't have time for distractions ,” the CEO specified. I do not like the decision Elkann is pushing via Vigna, but, there it is.
Perhaps Euro 7 will not come until 2030 or later. There would still be plenty of time. Perhaps also just develop a new engine that emits fewer emissions. We will find out next year.
I think when the Ferrari CEO says: “Proceeding with Euro 7 as currently conceived would distract the attention of our team and our suppliers. Our suggestion is to accelerate electrification. We don't have time for distractions ,” the CEO specified. that means NO NEW THERMAL ENGINE DEVELOPMENT, PERIOD. "Euro 7 as currently conceived" is confusing until you realize that the CEO also stated: 'We need to focus on electrification rather than Euro 7' They will continue to sell what they have, and put all new "engine" development into EV (electrification). Even if Euro 7 is never ratified, Ferrari has proclaimed it will follow the EV faith, and, I predict, will become a case study in history of how to destroy a brand.
Two new made-up terms I reject - 'thermal engine' and 'electric engine'. Correct terms are 'engine' and 'motor', respectably. At times you will have heard a gas engine called a motor, which is OK, but electric can only be a motor. They started calling them engines to normalize putting a giant battery in your vehicle for primary drive.
Benedetto Vigna is to Ferrari as Kathleen Kennedy is to Star Wars. The brand destroyer. I genuinely can’t believe what I’m reading from him.
I mean, CEO's don't last forever, quite conceivable that another one arrives at some point and attempts to resurrect the V12 with efuels or whatever legislative exemption of the day exists.
