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  1. Horse

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    It will just be another gravy train and will not have any measurable improvement to the people who need it most.
     
  2. Arvin Grajau

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    So another ATSIC? Too funny move on Honey .
     
  3. Gleggy

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    Do you think?? A white fella corporation must be different. But its not about the money.
    "At 30 June 2022, there were 3,521 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander corporations registered under the CATSI Act, including 243 registered native title bodies corporate".
     
  4. islerodreaming

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    Karen, you have obviously never paid any attention to ATSIC. If you did you would KNOW that the majority of positions were elected by indigenous people. You should also read the guiding principles which curiously read a lot like The Voice. A complete criminal failure and they are asking to try it again.
     
  5. Arvin Grajau

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    Price was on the money when she mentioned in her address how the fakes are taking away from those in need .
     
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  6. Arvin Grajau

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    Living in Victoria, over the years I've had many clients from the Western District, and not one of them had a kind word to say about ATSIC Chairman CEO Geoff Clark Chairman 2000-2004 operated out of Warrnambool who along with his family over 30 years stole millions from various Aboriginal "outfits"

    ATSIC was another brainchild of then PM Hawke in 1990 and disbanded /abolished by Howard in 2005 with agreement by the then opposition.

    Google Geoff Clark if one can be bothered .

    ATSIC its charter was for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders to have full say in their lives going forward it replaced the ADC .

    The Voice will fail and if it did will be another Labor failure.
     
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  7. IanB

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    Voice delegates will be appointed, not elected. How can you have an election when indigenous people themselves have many, many disputes about who is real or not?

    No different to ATSIC.
     
  8. Arvin Grajau

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    #1758 Arvin Grajau, Sep 15, 2023
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    YOU have NFI, do you?

    Let us look at the history of the previous Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission's and who led them.

    1980 ADC led by Charles Perkins which also incorporated the land and finance commissions the commission had 10 board members ALL Aboriginal! and employed 100 staff mostly Aboriginal! Add to this NAC the board was made up of Aboriginals elected by 35 Aboriginal communities.

    This commission operated out of Canberra, with 6 branches and 21 rural offices, and employed over 350 people. In 1990 it was incorporated into ATSIC and we all know how that ended! Oh, who was the 1st Commissioner CEO of that failure? "Lowitja O'Donoghue" Yes that one .

    So cut out the arguing and bickering and understand THEY the Aboriginal and West Torres islanders have had their own decision-making process for decades.

    It will never work to much hatred from coast to coast and island to island .

    All have failed due to Greed corruption and mismanagement, and The Voice will be NO different.
     
  9. Arvin Grajau

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    Arguing and bickering by many groups who hate each other from coast to coast Island to island.
     
  10. islerodreaming

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    Quiet, that truth doesn't fit the narrative Labor want you to believe..
     
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  11. Arvin Grajau

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    #1761 Arvin Grajau, Sep 15, 2023
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    Get a Torres islander group in the same room as Aboriginals from that side of the country, add those from the West, and throw some ideas around.

    Add to the room groups by allowing inner-city So-called ones into the room ,be fun then have the local law enforcers on speed dial .
     
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  12. Arvin Grajau

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    This referendum is costing 365 million plus.
     
  13. kryten2001

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    that’s just what the ABC are spending on airtime propaganda alone.
     
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  14. Gizzi

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    The scam text Jodi and I received is a disgrace.
    I’m sure it was sent by the left in the hope that those voting NO will fill out their details etc, to think they will be getting a postal vote only to NOT receive one and hence not vote at all.
    Another slimy trick used by the yes campaign along the lines of the ‘tick’ and ‘cross’


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  15. kerrari

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    That is not as silly as it sounds - it’s the ORGANISATION of the traditional shelters that needs to be kept with updated to modern materials and facilities.
     
  16. kerrari

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    The ‘minority group’ will only be affecting their lives - NOT yours, so where’s the skin off your nose?
    LOL re the last sentence - please explain how feminism affects employment law? If you’re thinking things like maternity leave, day care etc they have nothing to do with ‘feminism’ and everything to do with market forces (ie trying to keep women in the workforce). Not to mention men have equal rights to those benefits anyway.
     
  17. Arvin Grajau

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    They will the Yes lot, apply every trick in the book, like picking up outer region Aboriginals in buses and showing them where to tick on the ballot.

    Millions of dollars to be thrown at adverts.

    Don't be surprised if NO votes go MISSING in the count
     
  18. kerrari

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    No- the problem is now we have government departments making decisions on behalf of Aboriginal communities who are NEVER consulted directly. They have stuff (like the unsuitable housing) thrust upon them by bureacrats and ‘suppliers’.
    The simple fact is they are a minority who just need a framework to be able to engage. They are too few and too scattered to be able to get heard in the ordinary run of parliament.
     
  19. kerrari

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    Possibly, but we’ll never know till we try... Plenty of government gravy trains out there, most with white drivers...
    And if the Aboriginal people themselves mess up the opportunity then they’ll have to lie in that bed...
     
  20. kerrari

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    The corporations don’t have a voice in parliament.
     
  21. Steve355F1

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    You are joking, surely? You must be.

    There is no way anyone with a functioning brain cell could seriously believe what you have written.

    Do you have ANY idea how many aboriginal organisations (that are almost entirely run by local aborigines) currently exist whose sole purpose is to advise government (local, state and federal)?

    Hint: it’s in the thousands.

    Where do you think the $100 million of taxpayers money PER DAY actually goes?

    I know ten year olds who are more connected to reality than you are.
     
  22. Arvin Grajau

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    Over 3,500 registered Aboriginal/Torres Straight Corporations registered in 2023.MONEY PITS

    On GG last nearly every town we drove through or stopped at had A Land Council building or an Aboriginal office.

    Never thought much of her, as just a poorly educated backwater Queenslander, changed my mind just ignorant of history, and current and future issues regarding Aboriginals many issues.

    As Greg would say "The Coolum Troll" I've had enough she is back on ignore all she brings to the F.Chat conversation be it here or other sections is arguing and bickering.

    And a racist who is a MISANDRY.
     
  23. greg246

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    NFI, just trolling and rehashing what’s said over a beer and $10 steak at the surf club
     
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  24. greg246

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    So the reason they kick walls in, throw out appliances and burn down these houses is that they don’t like living in a McMansion?

    Please show us what a traditional shelter is and whom in the current generation of Aboriginals would have had any experience living in one?
    And apart from living in a cave or under a tree, how are they “built”?

    How about we stop enabling them, instead help them make a living from the vast landholdings they already have and show them the value and benefits of making it on your own. Do you think if they put their hard earned into buying and building a home that they’d trash it?

    You truly are nauseating with these unbelievable statements and the only conclusion I keep coming up with is you’re a TROLL
     
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    Quotas.
     

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