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Rock 'n Stroll . . . The Stroller Thread.

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  1. SS454

    SS454 Formula 3

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    Stroll wasn't singled out. Latifi got a lot of criticism for being a billionaire's son that doesn't deserve to be in F1. Logan Seargant is already receiving the punches. Let's not forget Mazepin!

    There have been plenty of undeserving rich kids in F1, but nobody has been given so much as Stroll, and it's even worse when he can't deliver a result. There are only 20 drivers in the entire world that get to race in Formula 1 in a single event. Lance Stroll has occupied one of those seats for 7 years. All the talent that doesn't get a shot, or even gets kicked out of F1 so some spoiled brat can participate. Maybe you think it's awesome that the filthy rich are forcing everyone to endure this, but I think it's a kick in the crotch insult to Formula 1 and all the drivers that never get a shot. Id say the fans are robbed of the entertainment of a much better driver, but I'll be honest, it is quite hilarious and enjoyable watching Stroll fail miserably time and time again.
     
  2. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Bravo! Nice post. Glad Stroll has money. Idiocy cares little for it!! Stroll gets heat for 1 thing- lack of results due to poor driving!!
     
  3. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes, I do !!! ;)
     
  4. furoni

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    You're the only one talking about hate.....This is an f.1 site discussion, if you suck, people will talk about it, it happens in every sport, if you suck but you had to overcome many obstacles to get there, people might be more linient, but if you're just a spoilt brat with no talent and the wrong atittude, you can be sure he'll be criticized.....
     
  5. simpen

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    Not sure what talents are getting kicked out of F1 because of Stroll having a seat? There are few ways to get into F1 and having a rich or famous dad certainly is one of the easiest. But quite frankly, the idealistic idea that F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport with exactly the 20 best racing drivers available is ridiculous. Even to ascend in the lower classes, talent is not the discerning factor.
     
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  6. william

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    +1

    What is funny is people focusing on someone's wealth to bar him from a sport where money is the main ingredient !!
     
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    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Lawrence Stroll and Lance Stroll is the exception of 95% of the drivers in F1.....the son wasn't sponsored nor was the son picked due to his talents. Lance got a superlicense, passed all the requirements and then BOUGHT his was into F1 and has lasted 7 years in F1 with minimal to no progress.
     
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  8. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Again, no one gives a **** about his wealth if he could actually perform.

    He doesn't perform and never has, therefore the comments he receives are fare game.
     
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  9. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Do you think Stroll is the only one "not performing"? Talk about double standards here !!!
    Just look at the career of Hulkenberg, Magnussen, Ocon or Gasly over the years, and they haven't performed much either.
    But maybe they are "kids from the ghetto" and satisfy your criteria? LOL
     
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  10. william

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    You realise that several drivers tick all these boxes ?
     
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  11. jgonzalesm6

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    Are they still around.....yes or no?
     
  12. Bas

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    Gasly won a race in an alpha tauri ffs. Ocon won in a Renault!

    the rest you mentioned, are they critically underperforming relative to their teammate, i.e. their first yard stick? No they are not.

    You keep making it about wealth (yet again) because that's what you got in your head it's all about. It really isn't. Not sure you realized, this is Ferrarichat. This place is filled with millionaires and even billionaires, with insane car collections and whatnot. Do you really think that if it was about wealth...so many of us would be on this site? You're being beyond ridiculous with that poorly thought out statement. But you keep banging on about it, because in your head only you can be correct about whatever statement you dream up and there's that.

    You've been told time and time again that it's not his wealth. It's his (lack of) driving standards. YOU only circle it back to wealth because you're comfortable with that. Grow up for once. You keep going on about the drivers you've seen racing, surely you've had plenty of time to grow up!?
     
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  13. william

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    Some are; Look at Magnussen (I like him too), Hulkenberg (once touted ar Ferrari material !) who have been in F1 longer than Lance.
    Look at their WDC ranking over the years, look at Ocon and Gasly ...
     
  14. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Did any of them BUY their way into F1?
     
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  15. william

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    Oh, I thought we wouldn't focus on wealth any more.

    Now you move the goalpost to reintroduce it. LOL Pay drivers have always been part of F1.

    Does it matter ? Well, for you obviously since the Strolls have become hate figures for you.
     
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    Stroll wouldn't be around in F1 IF he didn't have his daddy's money. Look at Sirotkin.....pfft.

    And stop using this word "HATE." No one here on FChat hates Stroll.

    And the drivers you mentioned have moved from different teams so each team has different bosses so those bosses obviously like their performance over the years.
     
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  17. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    on this point, exactly. As far as I can tell in most interviews he comes across as quite decent and if you look at social media seems to have plenty of friends in the paddock, too.
     
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    I hate the hypocrisy--the forced testimonials by Otmar, Krack, Alonso and others. Complete rubbish.
     
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    The more posts like these I see on here the more I enjoy watching Lance being in F1. Despite all the nay sayers.
     
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  20. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    When he commits driving offenses, Lance Stroll takes the penalties like anyone else, and he isn't the main culprit.
    I have never heard the FIA making comments about his driving standards in view to exclude him from F1.
    It's only a media cabal and a few posters on FChat that question his participation, using different reasons to suit their case.

    I do not share the character assassination about Lance Stroll, and I make it known.
    Your problem is that you think that you OWN this forum and cannot suffer anyone having a different opinion than yours.
    You should do some growing up yourself before attempting to lecture me on the subject. ;)
     
  21. Bas

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    Exacty. Other drivers get called out on their sub-par performances all the time (Perez for example, as does Sainz etc etc), why should Stroll be immune? Sorry...not just immune....he gets praised for failing!
     
  22. Bas

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    I have no problem someone having a different opinion than me. I do have a problem when you make up false narratives to suit your own and use it as fact. You claim Stroll is hated for his wealth, I say it's not true, then you make up other claims to try and ensure your opinion is correct.

    I don't believe Stroll should be excluded from F1. I think over the past 7 years he's proven he's incapable of being anything other than just a driver, and I believe someplace like WEC would be far more suited to his talents. Quite simply put, he is not desperately slow, but he doesn't have what it takes to be a world champion. Even if he finds himself in the fastest car by a comfortable margin, his teammate will win the title. What's the point?
     
  23. tifosi12

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    Oops. You just eliminated about 60% of the entire grid. And not just for now, but for the entire history of F1 (the % is probably too low, it's likely more than 60).

    Lots of drivers who are not WDC material on there and who wouldn't win the title even if in the fastest car because their teammate would beat them.

    Perez did not like your post. Nor did Massa, nor Irvine, nor Patrese nor Surer and on and on and on
     
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  24. william

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    By a quick rule of thumbs, I would say that's the case of 3/4 of the grid !!!

    That's a very stupid comment to make !!! :rolleyes:

    If you only look at potential WDCs at the moment, they are very few, maybe only 3? 5 at most, but I doubt it.

    Most drivers retire from F1 without having won anything, but they did participate. For you they are worthless drivers.
     
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  25. william

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    Some drivers have personal sponsors who keep subsidising their seat from team to team during their career.
    So that influences team bosses when they make their choice of drivers.
     

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