LADENBURG Automobilia Auctions not paying consignors?

I agree, I'm also not a fan of his work, but selling/dumping so many at once with no reserves and getting poor results is never a good thing. Not good for anyone... not for the artist, collectors, and dealers.

 

I wish I’d known about the auction and I guess I’m the proof of Gooding’s poor publicity.

 

Good for the buyer.

 

Yes and No. Only good for the buyer right now.... good unless, or until the time the buyer(s) want or need to sell. History of sales & prices private and public (especially one like the Gooding/Pullman sale) almost always get factored into resale prices and what others might be willing to pay. In general low prices can lead to depressed values prices/sales in the future for some items. Not great for the buyers on most items.

 

I could not agree more. The Pullman Gallery have always had a very consistent aesthetic as to what they sell. As others have also mentioned, I have never been particularly enthusiastic about most of it. Irrespective of that, taking your rather unique type of merchandise and establishing a fairly broad and very public record of low open market values can only dim one's long-term business prospects. Simply put, how can you ask someone to pay $XX,XXX for something, with any degree of credibility, when a simple Google search is likely to pull up Gooding's results with the same or similar stuff for $XXX?

 

Absolutely! I completely agree!!!

It's not rocket science, but then again, maybe to some sellers and observers it might be!

 

On a positive note I can report that I bought the original Millanta book ('Ferrari Automobili 1947-1953') at the recent Marcel Seidel Ladenburg auction (incredibly for just 119 euros incl buyer's premium!). And the whole transaction was perfect: the invoice was sent swiftly, I received a confirmation of payment and just a day later shipment confirmation with DHL tracking. Moreover, the book arrived already, in mint condition. I am very happy with all that.

 

At the Ferrari Online Auction of Marcel Seidel Ladenburg last Sunday, I was happy to get a very special signed (Piero Ferrari) edition of Piloti, che gente from 1987. Within the next 5 days, I got the invoice, confirmation of payment, confirmation of shipping including tracking, and today the book itself!

Perfect service, you can't do this any better!

 

Sunday, 9th June 2024, I purchased various lots from Automobilia Ladenburg (Seidel) for a total of Euro € 9'775.80.
As always I paid immediately. I have been a client for many years and always asked for delivery by Fedex, fastest possible way (not the sihtty economy nonsense), all at my expense, of course.The distance between Ladenburg and my place in Switzerland is 330 kms.
As of today, 20th June 2024, 9.25 am, I haven't received anything yet.........

Marcel Massini

 

I think the problem is not the geographical distance but rather the political and institutional distance. To live in total isolation from the rest of the world can have some disadvantages. It's not a matter of Marcel Seidel Ladenburg but rather of your incompetent government ...

 

FWIW Switzerland does not live in total isolation.......
In the meantime I have received an email of apology by Automobilia Ladenburg confirming that they made a mistake and sent the stuff by economy........
As for incompetence of governments I think this should better be discussed in the P&R section.........

Marcel Massini

 

Today is the 24th of June. Ni-Cola say on there website that the next auction is on 17&18th May. These auction houses are really on it.

 

Well, at least I have already received the items I bought in their May auction a week or 2 ago. Still waiting to receive the money of the stuff I sold in said auction though. I can't remember how long that took last time, 8 weeks or something so for the time being I'll just wait and see.

In any case on their website I only see the May auction referenced to in the past tense today, with a link to the post-auction sale. Do you still see it referenced as an upcoming auction? Perhaps it's changed in the past days now that they've added the actual date of the next upcoming auction.

Small word of warning about Ni-Cola's automatic bidding: they immediately enter your maximum bid, no steps in between like on some other sites. The way the process is described could make you assume they use incremental bidding, but no. Wham bam, your maximum bid from the first second. That's one way to win an auction. Next time I'll try to bid real time because this was a costly lesson.

 

On the bright side, I won 5 items that way. On the negative side, I won 5 items that way.

 

Thanks for the warning, that's very surprising.... and not in a good way! I have not bid with them, but thought I probably would at some point. Now with this extra and important info, there would have to be something I really wanted very much in order to set my schedule to bid in real time, which is a hassle, and of course there is no guarantee that I wouldn't get outbid. I've often done phone bidding with a few UK auction houses, which is fairly inconvenient too given the time difference, but has definitely helped me win some items.

 

With realtime online bidding I'm always afraid of my internet connection hanging or lagging a bit. Some items pass the block in a few seconds, that doesn't allow for much space in the online bidding process. I haven't tried realtime bidding yet, so maybe -likely- it works just fine in practice.

 

That's why I prefer phone bidding or in person when possible. I have had problems on occasion with bidding online both directly with auction houses and a few of the platforms out there. Also with absentee bids. Best for me has always been live on phone, and in person.

 

I've never tried live on phone, but is it as simple as saying your next bid when the auctioneer is questioning the room? Or is there an intermediary person you're talking with to bid.

 

Thanks!

 

Ladenburg is selling the archives from Jess G Pourret

https://www.automobilia-ladenburg.de/aAPI/catalogs/de/e656258737a7bd8d73c1d7837dc99f32/categories/5d73d09ef86ed73bf98d0c6d6f12592c/page/1

 

Wow, extremely interesting auction! Thanks for sharing!