Link to the RM Sotheby's catalogue....
Link to the RM Sotheby's catalogue. http://catalogue.rmsothebys.com/books/psit/?&utm_source=rmsothebys.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GT23&utm_term=GT23_History&_cldee=oN3HRMNoQUi0sPziWhM0IDlyXR0ks1D_ZsiRji6fQNm-PixNLgD9XTraN3ytJ800&recipientid=contact-798599152c61ee11829d000c2971a03a-0e4fc86e01da4c26aaab88660a7048f9&esid=f2d1c899-ea6d-ee11-829e-000c2971a03a
I consider this not a classic 3-liter 250 GTO but rather a 330 LM. Chassis type is 538 = 400 SA SWB. Engine type is 163 = 330/400 SA 77x71. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login
I'd love to know what Jack Reuter paid in 1968. I'd also like to know more about Jack Reuter. How did he know what this car was? These were the bohemian years for vintage Ferraris.
Asked and answered: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/anyone-ever-know-jack-reuter.185237/ http://ferrariexperts.com/about%20us.htm
Thanks! I'm interested in what I call the Bohemian years. Those years when only few knew about these cars.
Jack Reuter and family are still around in the St. Louis area. Cliff Reuter is the keeper of the car information. Back in the day a number of interesting cars went through Jack's ownership.
Thanks, Dave. I couldn’t find anything in there documenting the work done at Shelton’s but it’s possible I’m not looking in the right place.
Other than a mention that Shelton (Al Roberts) performed the restoration, I'm not aware of any further information in the catalog.
And for that matter, Steven Mitchell's friend Mario Tosi, first US-owner of 3765 LM, who then sold the car to Jack Reuter.
I used to have a few photos... I had an acquaintance who was going on spring break that year and persuaded him to stop by Shelton. He took photos when the car was at the painter's.
Attached you will find photos of the day in 1974 when Fred Leydorf and Jack Rueter exchanged cars at a shopping area in a South Chicago suburb. Fred brought 500 TRC #0658 and Jack brought the 330 LM #3765 and we swapped cars from one trailer to the other. We all thought it was neat that Fred was getting a "GTO" but it wasn't a huge deal back then. I was there and helped with the process. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
what is everyone's personal opinion whether birth as a 330 LM makes it +, -, or = the average 250 GTO?
AGAIN: This is a 400 SA frame, not a 250 GTO 3 liter frame. That alone says it all. The frame is always the basis, the start, and then the engine (the heart). See also post #78. Marcel Massini
Would anybody pay $ 60 M and up for a 400 SA frame? With a 4 liter engine type 330 LM? The only "GTO" here are the similar looks of the bodywork. Marcel Massini
But, it does have an interesting history with factory race entries, including LeMans. As originally built it had a 330 motor like/similar to the LeMans winning 330 TRi. The current 250 motor was installed by the factory and is a P car serial number. The 5 speed GTO transmission was also installed by the factory. I agree that it is not the same as a real 250 GTO but it is certainly far more than just a rebodied 400SA. I guess a question would be has it been excluded from the exclusive 250 GTO gatherings?
I think you already knew the answer, but according to the history file it has been to a few, including last year.
Not anymore that the prototype Daytona on a 275 chassis. Same DNA. The type runs much deeper than the name.
I never said it is a rebodied 400 SA. But it doesn't have the key elements of a genuine 3 liter 250 GTO. At the $ 60 M level I'd never compromise. Fortunately I do not play at that level. Right now there are two other 250 GTO's also available. Marcel Massini